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Hello everyone,

Does anyone know if anyone has a pattern for a B-Series honda adapter
(92- integra or some of the Civic SI and Del Sol motors)?
Electroauto doesn't have it and doesn't seem to be overly interested
in getting the pattern since I haven't gotten any response to my
emails. I may resort to calling them soon but I gather from my lack
of response that they aren't enthusiastic about it and that makes me
a little nervous.

Is there anyone else making taperlock adapters?

I would be confident making the plate myself, it's just the taperlock
adapter would be a little more difficult for me.
I would prefer a taperlock since I gather they are a little better
and handling torque.

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks!

-Jeremy Green

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I find it difficult to believe Electroauto can't won't
do it. It is listed as one that they do. KTA
Services, while out of the on-road biz, may be able to
point you in the right direction, as they also stocked
that model/could order it for you.

I got mine done by a fabricator named Nels Strandberg.
He's active in the EVAA of Seattle area. I don't
know if he wants to make more...

The Civic Si and Del Sol are gen. 5 models. I am
not knowledgeable to comment much on the Integra.
One would think the drivetrain was similar, but IIRC,
the displacement was higher; whether the bolts are in
the same spots, I don't know. I can tell you that the
B15 motor and S20 transmission were used on my '92
Civvy, and it has been a magnificent rig. See below
and follow weblinks, if you need more info (I have a
journal). Most important, remember that we rotate the
opposite direction of most rigs on the road, which
means your motor will need to be advanced properly.
One thing that may be an advantage-- the rear brakes
are disc; better for stopping a lead-heavy car.
peace,

--- Jeremy Green <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Does anyone know if anyone has a pattern for a
> B-Series honda adapter
> (92- integra or some of the Civic SI and Del Sol
> motors)?
> Electroauto doesn't have it and doesn't seem to be
> overly interested
> in getting the pattern since I haven't gotten any
> response to my
> emails. I may resort to calling them soon but I
> gather from my lack
> of response that they aren't enthusiastic about it
> and that makes me
> a little nervous.
>
> Is there anyone else making taperlock adapters?
>
> I would be confident making the plate myself, it's
> just the taperlock
> adapter would be a little more difficult for me.
> I would prefer a taperlock since I gather they are a
> little better
> and handling torque.
>
> Any information would be helpful.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Jeremy Green
>
> _______________________________________________
> For subscription options, see
> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
>


Converting a gen. 5 Honda Civic? For $20 DVD you can purchase footage of my '92 sedan, as well as a del Sol and hatch too!
Learn more at: www.budget.net/~bbath/CivicWithACord.html ____
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The transmission is actually going in my '87 CRX. The transmission
is from a '92 integra. All of the b series motors have identical
bolt patterns for the bell housing.
I decided to replace the transmission in my CRX with one from an
integra because there is a larger selection of clutches (I was having
trouble finding one that didn't slip, I have a lead foot). I found a
slightly used twin plate exedy clutch that should work nicely.

I have already upgraded the brakes on my CRX quite a bit with the
wonder of Honda's parts bin engineering. It has integra rear discs
(with a relocation bracket to make give me even larger discs for more
stopping power) and it has Integra GS-R front calipers. It brakes
pretty well now. I'm actually hoping to be able to remove the
booster and go with a straight manual brake setup to get rid of the
vacuum pump.

I may be able to get electro auto to do it but I am a little nervous
about it since they don't seem to want to reply to my emails. I'd
rather not be stuck waiting forever...

Are you sure your civic had a B15 and and not a D15B? As far as I
know the B15 only appeared in the Honda City overseas. There was a
B16 in the 1994-97 Del Sol VTEC and the 1999-00 Civic SI and the CR-
Vs until 2001.

Kind of odd that electro auto doesn't have the pattern since it is a
pretty popular motor...
Thanks, I'll keep looking...

-Jeremy

Bob Bath wrote:

> I find it difficult to believe Electroauto can't won't
> do it. It is listed as one that they do. KTA
> Services, while out of the on-road biz, may be able to
> point you in the right direction, as they also stocked
> that model/could order it for you.
>
> I got mine done by a fabricator named Nels Strandberg.
> He's active in the EVAA of Seattle area. I don't
> know if he wants to make more...
>
> The Civic Si and Del Sol are gen. 5 models. I am
> not knowledgeable to comment much on the Integra.
> One would think the drivetrain was similar, but IIRC,
> the displacement was higher; whether the bolts are in
> the same spots, I don't know. I can tell you that the
> B15 motor and S20 transmission were used on my '92
> Civvy, and it has been a magnificent rig. See below
> and follow weblinks, if you need more info (I have a
> journal). Most important, remember that we rotate the
> opposite direction of most rigs on the road, which
> means your motor will need to be advanced properly.
> One thing that may be an advantage-- the rear brakes
> are disc; better for stopping a lead-heavy car.
> peace,
>
> --- Jeremy Green <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Does anyone know if anyone has a pattern for a
>> B-Series honda adapter
>> (92- integra or some of the Civic SI and Del Sol
>> motors)?
>> Electroauto doesn't have it and doesn't seem to be
>> overly interested
>> in getting the pattern since I haven't gotten any
>> response to my
>> emails. I may resort to calling them soon but I
>> gather from my lack
>> of response that they aren't enthusiastic about it
>> and that makes me
>> a little nervous.
>>
>> Is there anyone else making taperlock adapters?
>>
>> I would be confident making the plate myself, it's
>> just the taperlock
>> adapter would be a little more difficult for me.
>> I would prefer a taperlock since I gather they are a
>> little better
>> and handling torque.
>>
>> Any information would be helpful.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Jeremy Green
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> For subscription options, see
>> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
>>
>
>
> Converting a gen. 5 Honda Civic? For $20 DVD you can purchase
> footage of my '92 sedan, as well as a del Sol and hatch too!
> Learn more at: www.budget.net/~bbath/
> CivicWithACord.html ____
> __/__|__\ __
> =D-------/ - - \
> 'O'-----'O'-'
> Would you still drive your car if the tailpipe came out of the
> steering wheel? Are you saving any gas for your kids?
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> ______________
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> to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
> http://travel.yahoo.com/
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After looking in my Helm manual, the engine is a D15B7
engine. Sorry I got a bit confused there.
How did you know what to go with regarding brakes?
>From what I read, you didn't change the proportioning
valve? Where would I find out what to swap out on my
rig while avoiding the proportioning valve as well?

I am surprised that the del Sol has a different
engine, as the configuration under the hood looks
identical to the other gen. 5 (hatch, sedan) models.
Appreciatively,

--- Jeremy Green <[email protected]> wrote:

> The transmission is actually going in my '87 CRX.
> The transmission
> is from a '92 integra. All of the b series motors
> have identical
> bolt patterns for the bell housing.
> I decided to replace the transmission in my CRX with
> one from an
> integra because there is a larger selection of
> clutches (I was having
> trouble finding one that didn't slip, I have a lead
> foot). I found a
> slightly used twin plate exedy clutch that should
> work nicely.
>
> I have already upgraded the brakes on my CRX quite a
> bit with the
> wonder of Honda's parts bin engineering. It has
> integra rear discs
> (with a relocation bracket to make give me even
> larger discs for more
> stopping power) and it has Integra GS-R front
> calipers. It brakes
> pretty well now. I'm actually hoping to be able to
> remove the
> booster and go with a straight manual brake setup to
> get rid of the
> vacuum pump.
>
> I may be able to get electro auto to do it but I am
> a little nervous
> about it since they don't seem to want to reply to
> my emails. I'd
> rather not be stuck waiting forever...
>
> Are you sure your civic had a B15 and and not a
> D15B? As far as I
> know the B15 only appeared in the Honda City
> overseas. There was a
> B16 in the 1994-97 Del Sol VTEC and the 1999-00
> Civic SI and the CR-
> Vs until 2001.
>
> Kind of odd that electro auto doesn't have the
> pattern since it is a
> pretty popular motor...
> Thanks, I'll keep looking...
>
> -Jeremy
>
>
Bob Bath wrote:
>
> > I find it difficult to believe Electroauto can't
> won't
> > do it. It is listed as one that they do. KTA
> > Services, while out of the on-road biz, may be
> able to
> > point you in the right direction, as they also
> stocked
> > that model/could order it for you.
> >
> > I got mine done by a fabricator named Nels
> Strandberg.
> > He's active in the EVAA of Seattle area. I don't
> > know if he wants to make more...
> >
> > The Civic Si and Del Sol are gen. 5 models. I
> am
> > not knowledgeable to comment much on the Integra.
> > One would think the drivetrain was similar, but
> IIRC,
> > the displacement was higher; whether the bolts are
> in
> > the same spots, I don't know. I can tell you that
> the
> > B15 motor and S20 transmission were used on my '92
> > Civvy, and it has been a magnificent rig. See
> below
> > and follow weblinks, if you need more info (I have
> a
> > journal). Most important, remember that we rotate
> the
> > opposite direction of most rigs on the road, which
> > means your motor will need to be advanced
> properly.
> > One thing that may be an advantage-- the rear
> brakes
> > are disc; better for stopping a lead-heavy car.
> > peace,
> >
> > --- Jeremy Green <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if anyone has a pattern for a
> >> B-Series honda adapter
> >> (92- integra or some of the Civic SI and Del Sol
> >> motors)?
> >> Electroauto doesn't have it and doesn't seem to
> be
> >> overly interested
> >> in getting the pattern since I haven't gotten any
> >> response to my
> >> emails. I may resort to calling them soon but I
> >> gather from my lack
> >> of response that they aren't enthusiastic about
> it
> >> and that makes me
> >> a little nervous.
> >>
> >> Is there anyone else making taperlock adapters?
> >>
> >> I would be confident making the plate myself,
> it's
> >> just the taperlock
> >> adapter would be a little more difficult for me.
> >> I would prefer a taperlock since I gather they
> are a
> >> little better
> >> and handling torque.
> >>
> >> Any information would be helpful.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> -Jeremy Green
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> For subscription options, see
> >> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
> >>
> >
> >
> > Converting a gen. 5 Honda Civic? For $20 DVD you
> can purchase
> > footage of my '92 sedan, as well as a del Sol and
> hatch too!
> > Learn more at: www.budget.net/~bbath/
> > CivicWithACord.html ____
> > __/__|__\ __
> > =D-------/ - - \
> > 'O'-----'O'-'
> > Would you still drive your car if the tailpipe
> came out of the
> > steering wheel? Are you saving any gas for your
> kids?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
______________________________________________________________________
>
> > ______________
> > Need a vacation? Get great deals
> > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
> > http://travel.yahoo.com/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
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Learn more at: www.budget.net/~bbath/CivicWithACord.html ____
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The del sol came with two different engines (like the Civic & Civic
Si). One was a D series like yours and the more powerful engine was
the B-series one with VTEC (Variable Timing Control).

I actually do have a different proportioning valve that I'm going to
put on my car while I have it apart. I think it works ok without it
but it does mess up the brake balance a little bit. Do you have
drums on the rear? You can check out www.fastbrakes.com for kits to
fit larger rotors on.

If your car came with rear drums then it might benefit from the 2020
proportioning valve from a car with 4 wheel discs.

-Jeremy


Bob Bath wrote:

> After looking in my Helm manual, the engine is a D15B7
> engine. Sorry I got a bit confused there.
> How did you know what to go with regarding brakes?
>> From what I read, you didn't change the proportioning
> valve? Where would I find out what to swap out on my
> rig while avoiding the proportioning valve as well?
>
> I am surprised that the del Sol has a different
> engine, as the configuration under the hood looks
> identical to the other gen. 5 (hatch, sedan) models.
> Appreciatively,
>
> --- Jeremy Green <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The transmission is actually going in my '87 CRX.
>> The transmission
>> is from a '92 integra. All of the b series motors
>> have identical
>> bolt patterns for the bell housing.
>> I decided to replace the transmission in my CRX with
>> one from an
>> integra because there is a larger selection of
>> clutches (I was having
>> trouble finding one that didn't slip, I have a lead
>> foot). I found a
>> slightly used twin plate exedy clutch that should
>> work nicely.
>>
>> I have already upgraded the brakes on my CRX quite a
>> bit with the
>> wonder of Honda's parts bin engineering. It has
>> integra rear discs
>> (with a relocation bracket to make give me even
>> larger discs for more
>> stopping power) and it has Integra GS-R front
>> calipers. It brakes
>> pretty well now. I'm actually hoping to be able to
>> remove the
>> booster and go with a straight manual brake setup to
>> get rid of the
>> vacuum pump.
>>
>> I may be able to get electro auto to do it but I am
>> a little nervous
>> about it since they don't seem to want to reply to
>> my emails. I'd
>> rather not be stuck waiting forever...
>>
>> Are you sure your civic had a B15 and and not a
>> D15B? As far as I
>> know the B15 only appeared in the Honda City
>> overseas. There was a
>> B16 in the 1994-97 Del Sol VTEC and the 1999-00
>> Civic SI and the CR-
>> Vs until 2001.
>>
>> Kind of odd that electro auto doesn't have the
>> pattern since it is a
>> pretty popular motor...
>> Thanks, I'll keep looking...
>>
>> -Jeremy
>>

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