[52International]

Very excited for the new arrival!

Came with drive unit, HV cable, controller cable, oil hose, and a water manifold.

Now have to figure out what to do about a controller.

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[kennybobby]

Wow that thang is a beast.

Does anyone have a diagram of the gearbox--where are the gears and how do they run the output shaft thru the center of the rotor?

 

[remy_martian]

Munro's Youtube channel does a teardown

The Eluminator is the front unit with a remote inverter, otherwise it's the same as rear unit, afaik

 

[kennybobby]

Thanks, that video is a great find and very interesting to see the interior parts. But what a complicated mess of an inverter with all the SiC FETs welded to the buss bars.

 

[52International]

Yeah, the appeal of the crate motor is it is the front motor which does not have an inverter. I needed lower profile to stay below the truck bed .Sandy tear down is of the rear with the inverter integrated.

I’ll use a cascadiamotion inverter and still tbd on vcu. Aem looks pretty nice. It will come down to ease of integration I’m sure.


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[DansEVhobby]

That's gonna be a really cool conversion! Looking forward to seeing how this build progresses!
I'm wondering if anyone knows if the Mach-E front drive inverter would work with the Eluminator crate motor combined with the AEM VCU? I've contacted Ford Performance and they don't seem to know anything, and I've contacted AEM but have yet to get a response. The Cascadia is the obvious choice but the cost is quite high, about 4-5X the cost of a Mach-E inverter.

 

[remy_martian]

Using the Ford front inverter is supposed to be what AEM is working closely with Ford on.

Ford should be releasing documentation of the inverter's CAN codes and pinouts, but I was told by them directly that, as well as the motor outline CAD drawing, is "proprietary" 🤦‍♂️

So...we have to 3D scan a unit, and log the traction inverter CAN codes (I'm hoping Veronika ( @D&VsEVJeep ) will do that with hers). It's not proprietary, it's 🦕🦕🦕🦕🦕

 

[52International]

Took the Eluminator to Art Morrison chassis shop today to review the mounting and design. I am very impressed with AM capabilities and operation. Spread across three large buildings, CNC machines, mandrel benders, they’re the real deal. We’re still a long ways from the finished product. It was well worth the trip.


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[remy_martian]

Well, I may have been deceived about Ford working with AEM on the CAN codes for Mach-E's traction inverter. Was there a falling out?

Here's a video released today from AEM that uses the Eluminator with a Cascadia Motion inverter (Cascadia does publish their CAN messaging, as everyone should):

A bit underwhelming, but not surprising given their battery and inverter choices. They blame the weight of the car, lol, in the video instead of their component choices.

Still an ok package, though.

 

[DansEVhobby]

amazing how Cascadia are able to put ~$8000 worth of tech in that 15 pound little box. Mosfets must be made out of pure gold.

 

[piotrsko]

At approximately $1800 an ounce, doesn't take much gold to get to 8 large really fast.... couple ounces. Silicon is much more expensive by comparison.

 

[remy_martian]

The power MOSFETs are about $3000 to $4000....the miracle these days is finding them in stock..