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Still Cheaper here in the USA. average is around $3.30/Gal 3.785 liters to the gallon gives us a cheap .87 per Liter.
I fear nothing will be done in this country untill gasoline hits about $10.00/gallon. Then the masses will get upset rather than staying fat and happy.
I fear nothing will be done in this country untill gasoline hits about $10.00/gallon. Then the masses will get upset rather than staying fat and happy.
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By the way Ragnar, I'm very surprised that petrol in Iceland is so cheap. Especially considering the large amount of money your country owes us and the UK. Are you sure it's only $1,8?
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$1.13 CAD for regular unleaded last I checked. Diesel is a bit lower but I'd have to look up the last cardlock bill to be sure.
When I was in the Sippy Downs area (roughly 1.5 hours north of brisbane) a year ago (Got to meet Coulomb and pals
), prices would rise and fall in a predictible weekly cycle with the cheapest being available on wednsday right around the time the tanker truck rolled in to refill the station. Needless to say, there was always a line up.
The car had an adaptive EFI system that would deliver a cost neutral increase in MPGs on mid grade fuel, so we used that to extend the range long enough to avoid having to refuel on more expensive days.
Over all I am quite spoiled where I am. My truck has an unloaded theoretical highway range of ~1200 km between the two factory tanks and prices don't fluctuate very much. Diesel tends to go up a little in the winter since its also used as home heating oil.
When I was in the Sippy Downs area (roughly 1.5 hours north of brisbane) a year ago (Got to meet Coulomb and pals
), prices would rise and fall in a predictible weekly cycle with the cheapest being available on wednsday right around the time the tanker truck rolled in to refill the station. Needless to say, there was always a line up.The car had an adaptive EFI system that would deliver a cost neutral increase in MPGs on mid grade fuel, so we used that to extend the range long enough to avoid having to refuel on more expensive days.
Over all I am quite spoiled where I am. My truck has an unloaded theoretical highway range of ~1200 km between the two factory tanks and prices don't fluctuate very much. Diesel tends to go up a little in the winter since its also used as home heating oil.
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The cycle here in Brisbane is a little more chaotic now. If it does the weekly cycle (some weeks it doesn't now), it peaks later, around Friday midday.When I was in the Sippy Downs area (roughly 1.5 hours north of Brisbane) a year ago (Got to meet Coulomb and pals
I don't think it was ever tied to deliveries; the petrol retailers would fax their suppliers and say "Hey, Joe down the road has posted $1.39 per litre, I need to match that price to stay alive!". The supplier would fax back what the new price is. Somehow they established an "average" price for the retailer to pay.
When challenged about the price rises at the end of the cycle, the suppliers would always claim that the highest price is the "real" price, and the lower prices were all discounts. They had to stop the discounts when they got to a certain point, since they claim to be losing money there.
Needless to say, the petrol companies are often being investigated for collusion by the ACCC (Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, a government sponsored "independent" body), but they rarely seem to get fined for it. It's almost comical.
I guess what it means is that the poorer people have to queue up at the cheaper times of the week, and the richer people pay more but wait less at the other times. Capitalism at its most insane, I say. It can only happen (as bad as this) with fuel, since you can't legally store it except in your vehicle's limited size tank.
They've actually gone to LED price signs at some petrol stations now; it saves all that climbing up a ladder to change the prices so regularly.
Recently, the petrol prices are increasingly controlled by two grocery retailers (Woolworths and Coles). They have been buying up petrol retailers that have been going to the wall due to the low margins, and selling petrol at Grocery branded outlets. If you shop more than a certain amount, you get 4c per litre (occasionally more) off the price of petrol.
Back when the price of petrol was 60c a litre, that was a good deal. Now, with prices over twice that, they haven't increased the incentive, but apparently enough people use the discount dockets to make it worthwhile.
Just a week or two ago, Coles reduced the price of 3L of milk from ~$3.40 to $3.00, and the very same day, petrol shot up to ~ $1.43 per litre from about $1.26. There are some that suggest that the two price changes were related!
(I'm one of them.)So now milk is being subsidised by petrol, and petrol is being subsidised (a little) by other groceries. Lunacy.
Meanwhile, recent floods and a cyclone have dramatically put up the price of fruit and vegetables. Some would say that this is connected with the continued use of too-cheap petroleum. I'd better stop there to stop a flame fest.
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Huh, I was wondering if Brisbane experienced the same cycle.
The station we used in Sippy Downs was owned by woolies and we did try to take advantage of the discount but really it wasn't much.
Don't know if it was tied to deliveries, but the timing seemed to be close as I recall. The whole thing was just - strange compared to what I'm used to here.
Not sure what to say about the milk though!
The station we used in Sippy Downs was owned by woolies and we did try to take advantage of the discount but really it wasn't much.
Don't know if it was tied to deliveries, but the timing seemed to be close as I recall. The whole thing was just - strange compared to what I'm used to here.
Not sure what to say about the milk though!
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Hi Guys - price per liter in New Zealand Dollars
Petrol - $2,07 - 95 octane, $2,00 for regular (91 Octane)
Diesel - $1,40 - no fuel tax on diesel diesel burners have to pay a road user charge
The guys in Auckland are about 5c less - but who would want to live there!
Exchange rate is currently $1 NZ = $0.76US
In US dollars
Petrol - $1,57 - 95 octane, $1,52 for regular (91 Octane)
Petrol - $2,07 - 95 octane, $2,00 for regular (91 Octane)
Diesel - $1,40 - no fuel tax on diesel diesel burners have to pay a road user charge
The guys in Auckland are about 5c less - but who would want to live there!
Exchange rate is currently $1 NZ = $0.76US
In US dollars
Petrol - $1,57 - 95 octane, $1,52 for regular (91 Octane)
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Yep, in USD. Last time I checked there wasn't much difference between England, France, Begium and the Netherlands. We're just a bit above average, not enough to tank across the border if you're not living at it.
hey Jan guess what... Icelandic people don´t give a **** what you think we should not have to pay this icesave because it was the UK and Holland government that didn't watch out and failed.. not Icelandic.. we should not have to watch you like big babes... and you know what The Icelandic people are writing.. an protest and i hope this goes to European cort.. than we will see who has to pay the price my friend..
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OK, just seen this and you have both had a say.
I am hoping that this won't escalate and we can leave it as a one off disagreement.
Thank you,
Admin.
hmmm... maybe should I stop my EV conversion and make it so it runs on dairy...
BTW, according to Android app "Gas Buddy", its $3.13 USD per gallon around here.
Good time to pick up some "Made in USA" products while our dollar is so low... oh yeah, that's right, we don't make anything anymore. Well, a Soliton1 might be goodOops forgot to mention the canadian dollar is currently above the USD (WTF did that happen ??? LOL
JR
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Speak of the devil:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/uk-iceland-icesave-idUKTRE71A3XJ20110211
That's it admin Woody.
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We did get a killer loncoln welder Mig recently, but that was a local purchase. Wish we did have something to buy at the moment but so far we are satisfied. Where was this exchange rate when I needed a battery LOLGood time to pick up some "Made in USA" products while our dollar is so low... oh yeah, that's right, we don't make anything anymore. Well, a Soliton1 might be good
JR
We sure could use more folks like the guys behind that controller though. Grass roots enterprising at its best!
Just saw a sign for $1.09/liter petrol today.
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