[pickmeup]

Hi All

Ive been doing a bit of searching through the forums to see if there is a list or recommendation of hybrid battery packs for conversions.

Its looking more likely i will use the outlander rear motor and inverter, so will be needing a pack with 300volts.

The outlander battery pack is 13.8KW which could be enough but ideally im after about 20-25Kw pack for my conversion.

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a list / specs of currently used hybrid battery packs?

Cheers
Gaz

 

[boekel]

outlander is a bit heavy for it's capacity, but it is very configurable. (80s, 40 Ah)

audi Q7 is 84s 54 Ah, nice compact modules

smart fortwo is 93 or 96s 50 Ah (fully electric)

Kia Soul (fully electric) is 96s / 75 Ah (newer ones 100s / 80 Ah)


What voltage do you need?

 

[pickmeup]

Ideally 300volts as im using the complete rear end of the outlander.

 

[john61ct]

What does "hybrid" mean here?

That you want to exclude packs from 100% electric vehicles?

 

[pickmeup]

yes im looking for information on high voltage battery packs used in hybrid vehicles like the outlander.

I need to be able to find a pack with around 300volts and ideally closer to 20-25kw.

The main aim for the vehicle is to use it for possibly a commute of 40miles and with the possibility of using it at a track day in which i will use it for 10-15 minutes each time, with a charge in between.

Im just looking for specifications on the battery packs used in hybrid vehicles to make it easier for me to source from the salvage yards in the UK.

 

[john61ct]

Yes but why would you **exclude** packs from full EVs?

 

[pickmeup]

im not excluding 'full ev' packs but from speaking to a specialist conversion company they suggested i look at hybrid packs as they are high voltage and small enough to fit in a classic mini.

 

[Hollie Maea]

im not excluding 'full ev' packs but from speaking to a specialist conversion company they suggested i look at hybrid packs as they are high voltage and small enough to fit in a classic mini.

Right, but the reason they are small is because they are low capacity. No hybrids have a pack as big as 20kWh. You need a DENSE battery, not a SMALL battery.

 

[Hollie Maea]

Probably the Kia Soul battery would be your best fit. You could take 80 of the 96 modules to match the original voltage and that would get you 21.6 kWh which is probably the very most you could cram into a Mini.

But you should really figure out what room you have to work with before you start buying things. That's a small car and you may very well not be able to fit in as big of a battery as you want.

 

[brian_]

I need to be able to find a pack with around 300volts and ideally closer to 20-25kw.

Since most EVs run 96S (so 360 V), and you want 300 V (corresponding to the Outlander PHEV's 80S pack), you could use 5/6ths of a 24 to 30 kWh EV pack. That corresponds to a Leaf, and other older lower-cost models.

If you use 5/6ths of a typical 16 kWh plug-in hybrid pack (e.g. 5 of the 6 LG Chem modules from a Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid) you'll only have 13 kWh.

 

[pickmeup]

Probably the Kia Soul battery would be your best fit. You could take 80 of the 96 modules to match the original voltage and that would get you 21.6 kWh which is probably the very most you could cram into a Mini.

But you should really figure out what room you have to work with before you start buying things. That's a small car and you may very well not be able to fit in as big of a battery as you want.

Thanks for the info and I am well aware of the space limitations i have in the mini, although as its a mini marcos Im doing i do have a longer wheel base and only 2 seats, which helps a little.

Ive started looking at options but i think i may need to split the battery pack with a smaller one in the front 'engine' bay and another in the rear either behind the seats or if its achievable in the rear subframe / petrol tank area.

Im really after a list of what battery packs are in cars both hybrid and full EV. I will do some more digging and if i find anything i will post it up here.

Thanks
Gaz

 

[brian_]

Probably the Kia Soul battery would be your best fit. You could take 80 of the 96 modules to match the original voltage and that would get you 21.6 kWh ....

Cells - or more likely pairs of parallel cells - rather than modules, right? Capacity varies by year, but all Soul EVs appear to have modules of various sizes (including 10S 2P, 14S 2P, and 16S 2P), not readily separated individual cells.

Eight of the 10S 2P modules from the original (2016-2017) or 2018-2019 Soul EV (75 Ah) would be 80S 2P, 300 V, and 22.5 kWh.