1. 100% electric car batteries - in order of appearance |
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2. Plug in hybrid car batteries (full 350ish voltage) |
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3. Hybrid car batteries (lower voltage) |
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Those three categories make sense to me, but to be useful I think it would help to understand how they are different:I don't know much about hybrid or electric car batteries, but what I know I hope to share. If I had to categorize them I would split them into three groups:
1. 100% electric car batteries
- Tesla Model S
- Tesla Model 3
- Nissan Leaf
- BMW i3
2. Plug in hybrid car batteries (full 360ish voltage)
- Chevy Volt
- BMW 530e
- BMW 740e
3. Hybrid car batteries (lower voltage)
- Toyota Prius
- BMW 330e
I keep a spreadsheet of EV and hybrid batteries for which I found interesting information, but I don't think there's much point in just listing all common EVs and hybrid vehicles. Any EV has a battery, so the databases of EVs (all of which contain battery information) can be useful:If you know of any other popular models please post them below or message me and I will add them to the list above.
I changed my request to be more specific: "If you know of any other popular models which lend themselves to EV Conversions please post them below or message me and I will add them to the list above."I keep a spreadsheet of EV and hybrid batteries for which I found interesting information, but I don't think there's much point in just listing all common EVs and hybrid vehicles. Any EV has a battery, so the databases of EVs (all of which contain battery information) can be useful:
That's reasonable, but essentially all battery-electric and plug-in hybrid batteries are suitable for at least some conversions, so it's clear what wouldn't make the list. One of the worst possible EV donors to use, from a size and proportions of the modules point of view, is the Tesla Model 3 / Model Y... and even that's being used (including by one project in this forum).I changed my request to be more specific: "If you know of any other popular models which lend themselves to EV Conversions please post them below or message me and I will add them to the list above."
That prudent, but is there even a single example of a modern production EV that doesn't have a lithium-ion battery?I am very cautious of words like All or Every...
There are lots of not-in-production promises, but it's really not that bad. For instance, there are real, in production, seen-on-the-road EVs from Chevrolet, Ford, Jaguar, Volvo, Audi, and Porsche, in addition to Tesla, Nissan (Leaf), and BMW.So when it comes to electric vehicles and I know you follow them 100x closer than I do, but what I have observed is that there is a ton of vapor wear still and we hear how there are dozens and dozens if not hundreds of different Makes and Models of electric cars, and then you go to get one and your choices are Tesla, Leaf, and BMW, everything else is the "Click here to reserve your ____" fill in the blank.
Yes, as always the same car shows up under different model names and brands. That's not unique to EVs or hybrids. A list will only help with that if it groups those models together. And the Cadillac ELR was another Volt variant.And don't get me started about how the Chevy Volt goes by 7 different names: Buick Velite 5, Holden Volt, Opel Ampera, Vauxhall Ampera yet it is the same rig, so that counts as one car.
case in point Volkswagen...
According to online articles, the 7-series plug-in hybrids have the same battery capacity (and same transmission with parallel hybrid motor) as the 5-series, so it would be the same pack or at least the same six modules. Before the 2020 model this was the 9.2 kWh battery, and 12.0 kWh since 2020.now I do realize we are beginning to beat a dead horse to death, but let's just list out another BMW model the 740e hybrid battery for completeness
lookie here, does it look familiar?
... 3. Hybrid car batteries (lower voltage)
- Toyota Prius (Production: 2012–present)
- BMW 330e
If you know of any other popular models which lend themselves to EV Conversions please post them below or message me and I will add them to the list above.
If the list is going to contain nothing but the model name (and perhaps year), and everything in it is supposed to be useful in EV conversions, then the Prius doesn't belong there - only a Prius Prime has a battery with enough capacity to be of any use in anything larger than a go-kart. That is, not all Prius batteries are useful.I changed my request to be more specific: "If you know of any other popular models which lend themselves to EV Conversions please post them below or message me and I will add them to the list above."
I am very cautious of words like All or Every ha ha...