You are awesome!! THANK YOU! I have the bluetooth module only, not the laptop connection, but this is exactly that I needed. Watching part 2 right nowI made some videos about how to program Kelly KLS controllers, Hope they help you.
If not just ask about where are you struggling...
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Hi PassedyoubyGood morning!
I am working on programing my kelly controller to my ME1616 and have a few issues.
I was able to do the initial setup and the motor runs great, but am struggling to find a breakdown of what each setting in the software does. Everything is just an acronym and I'm worried about making the wrong changes.
Example- there is an adjustment that says max battery. The default is 50. Is this a 50amp peak draw? 50A continuous? 50% of some other number in a different box? Idk!
More or less. Does anyone have a programing acronym cheat sheet or something along those lines? Maybe a suggestion of key things they have adjusted on their controllers, etc.
Thanks all!
That value is in order to create what is usually called a "throttle curve" it varies how much power the motor will deliver in relation with the throttle position.it appears to Overcurrent when I go full throttle at a very low rpm. It is worse when I use Map 80, and only occasionally when I use Map 50
Thank you very much Don! This is wonderful as well.Hi Passedyouby
I am using the Kelly KLS 72701 8080ips and a ME1302. Your motor might have different motor parameters.
I'm using this on a dirt bike. A lot of emails back and forth with Fany at Kelly support.
Gonzo's first video is a real good start. I don't know how to best get all my info to you in the easiest fashion. I'll include my most current settings. And the Map chart
At these settings I have one main issue still, it appears to Overcurrent when I go full throttle at a very low rpm. It is worse when I use Map 80, and only occasionally when I use Map 50.
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Hope to be able help.
Don
Electric motors like to work at high rpms so better go back the the 12 teeth sprocket, will be more efficient, will limit the current peaks, you will have more available torque, and will have more range.Since torque is so high at low rpms, I increased the countershaft sprocket by 2 teeth, from a 12 to a 14. It worked great, but now the " Over current Fault"
A normal current meter will not give you the peak current values, that trust me they can be extremely high.According to my current meter, I am not getting close to that.
The current limits are in order to protect the battery, motor, and controller.I had been running it at 50% Current Percent, when I had limited amps from my battery system ( about 400AMPs) it didn't get this fault, but now I have theoretically 630AMPs from the battery, maybe if I go to 80% it would not fault if I ask for 560AMPs,
Gonzo, thanks for the ideas.Electric motors like to work at high rpms so better go back the the 12 teeth sprocket, will be more efficient, will limit the current peaks, you will have more available torque, and will have more range.
If acceleration is too high then change the PID control values to reduce it.
A normal current meter will not give you the peak current values, that trust me they can be extremely high.
The current limits are in order to protect the battery, motor, and controller.
By experience, better put them right, else something will damage, in short or long term.
Something that you have to take in account as well is that the battery BMS has an over-current protection as well, and it can be triggering up as well.
Just a quick answer on your last question. Here is some data from a ME1302 motor, I couldn't find it on the ME1507 or ME1616, but I would imagine the ratio will stay pretty constant, because it is the conversion from a single DC Amps going into the controller and 3 Phase AC Amps going out of the controller.Quick question-
On one image I see motor current 80, and on another image I see normal current percent, 100%. Can you explain the differences here?
I understand the 100% means the controller will run at 100% of its rated capacity, but what's the 80amps setting for then?
Also, ignoring efficiency losses- is 100A being pulled from the battery equate to 100A being put into the motor? I wasnt sure if the Ac/DC conversion does something wierd with how that is calculated. Logically I would assume the same, but I can talk myself into stating those numbers would be different.
The PID settings are the ones that control how the motor gets to the desired speed/torque (set by the throttle), how fast (acceleration) and how it maintains it (speed/torque accuracy)Gonzo, thanks for the ideas.
1st, I think I will go back to the 12 tooth front sprocket, and reduce the PID?? I think they are the Ki and Kp settings.
There is more setting that you can tweak in order to smooth the ride:The Kelly just doesn't give the smooth power band that the Alta has, yet.
You can enable/disable that function at "Brake H-Pedal" field.it would kill the throttle, and would only come back if I returned the throttle to off and back on, no need to power Off/On
As per your information your setup is able to give those 50HP and provably more.The feel at the handlebar is that I don't get over 270Amps of power. With my 3 packs, I can get 190A, (1 pack), 270A, 2 packs and it should be about 380A), and 270A , ( 3 packs and it should be about 570A). And at the handlebars, on asphalt, 1 pack is a little slower, 2 packs is a bit more, and 3 packs is the same as 2 packs.
Hi Passedyouby
I am using the Kelly KLS 72701 8080ips and a ME1302. Your motor might have different motor parameters.
I'm using this on a dirt bike. A lot of emails back and forth with Fany at Kelly support.
Gonzo's first video is a real good start. I don't know how to best get all my info to you in the easiest fashion. I'll include my most current settings. And the Map chart
At these settings I have one main issue still, it appears to Overcurrent when I go full throttle at a very low rpm. It is worse when I use Map 80, and only occasionally when I use Map 50.
If you have any detailed questions just ask. View attachment 121749 View attachment 121749 View attachment 121749 View attachment 121750 View attachment 121751 View attachment 121752 View attachment 121753
Hope to be able help.
Don
New here, sorry to drag up an old thread but I had the same issue with the IPS controller and ME1616 motor that I'm using in my buggy and I have a simple fix to share. My controller always cut power momentarily when accelerating hard at low speeds or from a dead stop. The monitor showed "Reset" error each time, which basically means the overcurrent protection was being tripped. I assumed that since the phase current ratings for the motor and controller were both the same, and that my battery/bms could deliver more power than either of them demanded, that I could set the current % (which is for the motor current) and battery current % values at 100% in the main 'vehicle' page of the user program (NOT the motor page where you adjust motor current for angle ID). That's not the case. If you push the limits, you'll have trouble like I did. All motors are likely to pull slightly more current than what they're rated for in different conditions, and if the current % is set at 100 then the controller will allow the motor to pull what it wants until overcurrent protection trips. I dropped the current % for the motor in the vehicle section to 95%, left the battery percentage at 100% because mine's a tank. Also changed TPS MAP to 80 and accel time to 1. Now I can put the pedal to the floor from a standstill and tear the trail up without any overcurrent issues shutting down the controller and still get around 95% of the power I expected. Hope this is useful.Hi Passedyouby
I am using the Kelly KLS 72701 8080ips and a ME1302. Your motor might have different motor parameters.
I'm using this on a dirt bike. A lot of emails back and forth with Fany at Kelly support.
Gonzo's first video is a real good start. I don't know how to best get all my info to you in the easiest fashion. I'll include my most current settings. And the Map chart
At these settings I have one main issue still, it appears to Overcurrent when I go full throttle at a very low rpm. It is worse when I use Map 80, and only occasionally when I use Map 50.
If you have any detailed questions just ask. View attachment 121749 View attachment 121749 View attachment 121749 View attachment 121750 View attachment 121751 View attachment 121752 View attachment 121753
Hope to be able help.
Don