LionEV.com- Revealed as scam
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Actually Ken Curry of LionEV finishes his federal sentence on a Fraud conviction one year later, 1/16/2010. He is inmate #56030-083 at Morgantown FCI, West Virginia. You can verify it on the Federal Inmate Finder website.
to ROBBINS- the Chesapeake Business license they used was in the name of Ken Curry, and was posted in the window of their home/office.
The business is basically dormant as far as I can tell. There are very few changes to the website since last June when Ken went back to prison after his resentencing. His wife Kathy Curry answers emails, but never returns phone calls and won't even answer the door at 425 Brisa Drive Chesapeake, Virginia. They face several civil complaints right now, including mine for loss of $31,000.00 on a Ranger EV order.
Although they always worked from a small rented townhouse in Chesapeake Virginia, there was a time when they may had some employees and actually produced a pair of Ford Ranger EVs. The design work and conversion were contracted out, and they were sent to Texas in January 2008, but without the LifePO4 batteries. Four months later the batteries were delivered and installed by Ken Curry but without proper cell balancing they did not have much range, and some of the cells were damaged. That was the end of LionEV production; I never got my truck or any parts. Ken Curry went to jail and Kathy Curry has no particular expertise in EVs although she may answer an email if you want to buy batteries- don't expect any technical answers, she will refer you to Texoma (M. Barkley) The owners of those two lionEV trucks are working with other engineers to try to get them running.
I optimistically joined this Forum with the user name 2008Ranger, but maybe I should change it to 2008RangerScam.
I'd be happy to provide more facts if anyone needs them.
best of luck,
Chris
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Actually Ken Curry of LionEV finishes his federal sentence on a Fraud conviction one year later, 1/16/2010. He is inmate #56030-083 at Morgantown FCI, West Virginia. You can verify it on the Federal Inmate Finder website.
to ROBBINS- the Chesapeake Business license they used was in the name of Ken Curry, and was posted in the window of their home/office.
The business is basically dormant as far as I can tell. There are very few changes to the website since last June when Ken went back to prison after his resentencing. His wife Kathy Curry answers emails, but never returns phone calls and won't even answer the door at 425 Brisa Drive Chesapeake, Virginia. They face several civil complaints right now, including mine for loss of $31,000.00 on a Ranger EV order.
Although they always worked from a small rented townhouse in Chesapeake Virginia, there was a time when they may had some employees and actually produced a pair of Ford Ranger EVs. The design work and conversion were contracted out, and they were sent to Texas in January 2008, but without the LifePO4 batteries. Four months later the batteries were delivered and installed by Ken Curry but without proper cell balancing they did not have much range, and some of the cells were damaged. That was the end of LionEV production; I never got my truck or any parts. Ken Curry went to jail and Kathy Curry has no particular expertise in EVs although she may answer an email if you want to buy batteries- don't expect any technical answers, she will refer you to Texoma (M. Barkley) The owners of those two lionEV trucks are working with other engineers to try to get them running.
I optimistically joined this Forum with the user name 2008Ranger, but maybe I should change it to 2008RangerScam.
I'd be happy to provide more facts if anyone needs them.
best of luck,
Chris
Re: LionEV.com
Thanks for sharing your LionEV story! I believe I was the first to speak openly of my experience with LionEV; that was something more than a year ago:
http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt
At that time, MBarkley/Texhoma was a STRONG defender of LionEV both here and on EVDL. I am still waiting for him to fully describe how/if he was mislead by LionEV. And perhaps appologize to any victims he pushed into the arms of LionEV.
I am eager to hear from other LionEV victims.
My LionEV vehicle has come to a semi-successful end, though at a much greater cost:
http://www.evalbum.com/2314
Thanks for sharing your LionEV story! I believe I was the first to speak openly of my experience with LionEV; that was something more than a year ago:
http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt
At that time, MBarkley/Texhoma was a STRONG defender of LionEV both here and on EVDL. I am still waiting for him to fully describe how/if he was mislead by LionEV. And perhaps appologize to any victims he pushed into the arms of LionEV.
I am eager to hear from other LionEV victims.
My LionEV vehicle has come to a semi-successful end, though at a much greater cost:
http://www.evalbum.com/2314
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There, changed it to Thundersky.
This is sad news but a good warning for others. I think I suggest LionEV as a potential LiFePO4 supplier on my site. I'd better check and remove it if that's the case.
There, changed it to Thundersky.
I didn't find this information soon enough and have paid the price in battery packs purchased not being shipped.
For those who have had problems with LionEV.com please report your experience to the Better Business Bureau in their area of business. The phone number for the Chesapeake VA BBB is 757-531-1300.
Credit card companies and other fraud monitoring services need "actual" complaints in order to help with disputes and posts on message boards don't lend as much weight as a BBB dispute.
I also checked with the Chesapeake VA city and they have no record of a business in their city named LionEV. The address given on the LionEV.com website is to a mail box and not their actual location. If anyone has an actual shipping address please post it.
For those who have had problems with LionEV.com please report your experience to the Better Business Bureau in their area of business. The phone number for the Chesapeake VA BBB is 757-531-1300.
Credit card companies and other fraud monitoring services need "actual" complaints in order to help with disputes and posts on message boards don't lend as much weight as a BBB dispute.
I also checked with the Chesapeake VA city and they have no record of a business in their city named LionEV. The address given on the LionEV.com website is to a mail box and not their actual location. If anyone has an actual shipping address please post it.
Perhaps you could share the details of your LionEV experience? When and what did you pay for and how much you lost.
Last time I looked, http://lionev.com seemed to be dead. Finally. OOPS! I "spoke" too soon; they are back up with new content.
I still have not heard from Texhoma on this subject.
My EV, which began as an attempted purchase from LionEV is finally developing some reliability at 12.5K miles. I regularly drive it 100+ miles.
http://evalbum.com/2314
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Unfortunately James has fenced a significant amount of the inventory (against court Injunction) thru LithiumStorage.com so our case is complicated at this point in terms of recovery....
Reliable sources for LiFePO4 are limited at this point.
I'd be very interested to learn more about what it took to put him away as we seem to have a similar case against James Morrison (EV Components/Lithium Depot) which was just dismissed from attempted Bankrupcy protection, and back in Civil Court. Same problem with over 20 people having pre-paid batteries that James refused to ship.
Unfortunately James has fenced a significant amount of the inventory (against court Injunction) thru LithiumStorage.com so our case is complicated at this point in terms of recovery....
Reliable sources for LiFePO4 are limited at this point.
Re: LionEV.com
As far as sources for TS LFPs, I still trust Dave Kois and Everspring
http://www.currentevtech.com/
http://everspring.net
I'm sure there are other reliable suppliers.
As I understand it, the LionEV guy was "put away" for an eBay gold coin scam that he ran before he got involved in EVs. As far as I know, no one is pursuing him for his EV scams even though I think there are several with losses of $30K+.
As far as sources for TS LFPs, I still trust Dave Kois and Everspring
http://www.currentevtech.com/
http://everspring.net
I'm sure there are other reliable suppliers.
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Re: LionEV.com
http://www.alliancerenewableenergy.com and
http://www.EVolveElectrics.com
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bummer, it is quite time consuming and expensive legally to attempt recovery in cases of Fraud like this. The BBB and State AG have not proved very useful in cases where the bad guys don't seem to mind being bad or that their business is tanked as it becomes common knowledge that they are scammers.
At this moment the only other ones I would add as being reliable are
http://www.alliancerenewableenergy.com and
http://www.EVolveElectrics.com
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