Joined
·
2,053 Posts
For comparison, the racing go-karts at Veloce use 48V lead acid batteries at 100 Amps and they can get up to 50mph--but they only weigh about 150 kg and use an AC motor with chain and sprocket ~ 3:1 geartrain.
Posts by kennybobby
1 - 4 of 26 Posts
Joined
·
2,053 Posts
At 200 Amps and 45 Volts you have reached the limits of the controller and motor. There may be a thermal safety limit in the controller also to protect from meltdown. Take a look at the 48V motor curve and see if your speed and torque match up with that. What size tire and wheel are you running on the rear--need to know that to calculate road speed to motor speed.
Joined
·
2,053 Posts
If a 10 kW motor won't do the job, then why consider a lesser 6.4 kW motor?
At 50mph just the air resistance and rolling friction power load for a 750kg vehicle is easily 8 to 10 kW, and a motor that size will likely take a long time to ever reach that speed if the gearing is ideal.
How fast do you want to accelerate to 50 mph--that is what you need to use to size the motor in addition to the aero and friction loads.
Joined
·
2,053 Posts
Those curves have nearly the same shape for the different voltages, and not a lot of power difference due to being packaged in a similar sized frame. There is only so much power that can be created and dissipated in a certain volume.
They can wind the motor with smaller gauge wire to allow operation with higher voltage, but the current goes lower due to higher resistance. The no-load speed is nearly the same, the peak torque is 29 vs 32 N-m, and the peak output power used to rate each motor is 13 vs 15 kW, not really meaningful differences.
As Major said you really need to get an accurate vehicle load curve (speed vs torque at drive wheel). You can do this with the present motor and battery up to the limits that it will do. Without knowing your requirements you have no idea if you need to double the power of your motor, or increase it 5-fold or even 10x.
Nobody can tell you what size motor you need without seeing some data. The biggest load factors are related to vehicle weight, tire friction and aerodynamics. At the least you need to measure the total vehicle weight, the gear ratio used, the wheel size, and you need to measure the voltage and current while running on a flat level road at several different speeds, like every 5 or 10 mph up to your max speed. You can do some coast-down tests also to get data on rolling friction. Then some math is required--but first you need to get the data...
They can wind the motor with smaller gauge wire to allow operation with higher voltage, but the current goes lower due to higher resistance. The no-load speed is nearly the same, the peak torque is 29 vs 32 N-m, and the peak output power used to rate each motor is 13 vs 15 kW, not really meaningful differences.
As Major said you really need to get an accurate vehicle load curve (speed vs torque at drive wheel). You can do this with the present motor and battery up to the limits that it will do. Without knowing your requirements you have no idea if you need to double the power of your motor, or increase it 5-fold or even 10x.
Nobody can tell you what size motor you need without seeing some data. The biggest load factors are related to vehicle weight, tire friction and aerodynamics. At the least you need to measure the total vehicle weight, the gear ratio used, the wheel size, and you need to measure the voltage and current while running on a flat level road at several different speeds, like every 5 or 10 mph up to your max speed. You can do some coast-down tests also to get data on rolling friction. Then some math is required--but first you need to get the data...
1 - 4 of 26 Posts
