I see a lot of battery activity from you Electriccar.... You're doing what I was doing a while ago. I went round and round and back and forth.... I finally settled on Calb. Of course you have to satisfy yourself.
http://www.alliancerenewableenergy.com/ source a lot of cells and have a long record for deliveryAnyone have any specific vendor recommendations??
Thanks for your links. You guys make it all so easy!http://www.alliancerenewableenergy.com/ source a lot of cells and have a long record for delivery
EvolveElectrics.com retailers for them and may have stock
http://currentevtech.com has a short track record, but a stand-up owner who will play straight and let you know if he has stock ready to ship, or have to FOB china....
I don't think any of them accept COD. The issue is that they can't afford to front the purchase w/ China to maintain stock. Alliance I think is the highest volume and has a pretty good chance of having some in the US rather than FOB china, but they didn't like to deal with credits cards even in the past because it nibbles into the margin too much. The other two are smaller but have established personal credibility.....ALSO OF NOTE: I'm going to see about getting a shipment COD.
They actually do make a 200 Ah ...http://cali-battery.en.alibaba.com/product/219196040-209626885/Lithium_ion_Battery_Cell_200AHA.htmlI'm thinking of going with this instead of the 180ah, since they don't make a 200ah.
I love it that you're so trusting of someone but I just can't do that with that kind of money. Seriously. Lots of folks trusted EVC too and in the end several people got hosed, no product no refund. Screwed!Calib's ship hit the dock in LA today. I just got an email with a copy from the shipper. My cells should be here around Christmas
BTW - I had to mail a check in advance. (credit card is accepted too)
Just received email from Keegan who said the 240Ah cell isn't made and after March the 200 & 210Ah won't be either. Wonder what they're replacing them with?They actually do make a 200 Ah ...http://cali-battery.en.alibaba.com/product/219196040-209626885/Lithium_ion_Battery_Cell_200AHA.html
sent u a PMHi Tim. I am in talks with two companies and hope to order this week or next. I'm hoping to get the price down a bit which I am confident to do so but will see.
Re waiting. I'm already driving an ev and using lead and saving about 19 cents/mile. Just can't go very far and am waisting power heating the batteries every time I charge/drive. I'm at about 480wh/mile on average and am hoping for around 320 or less when done. But with a lot more power!
Yes, proper fit is a big deal for sure. I know it weighed heavily in my choice also. I think I spent an inordinate amount of time on my battery boxes, and really didn't want to have to hack them up too much. Like you, I also want some room around them for insulation.MORE HELPFUL INFO: After getting the specs on the new HP 200Ah cells, they fit right in my existing battery boxes. Two of them measure 10"W X 5.5" X 9.375"H, replacing one lead battery with room to spare! Carl Clark said he suggested to HP they modify the cases for this reason and they listened. Well it couldn't have been a better fit.
I wanted the new batteries to have a half inch gap all the way around the box for a heating/insulating material. I'll have that with HP batteries. My battery boxes were made with batteries in rows of two on each side of the drive shaft. Now I can have 4 rows of cells with a 30mm gap for whatever between each set of two rows. There is one battery box like this on each side of the drive shaft. Gives me a total of 47 under the bed with NO mod to existing boxes and room to insulate/heat all the way around! Total KW under bed: 30Kw
With the Calb 180's odd dimensions, I struggled to get 48 total under the bed. Wouldn't have enough clearance in some directions for insulation without lots of steel bracket modifications and would have to make lots of shims/spacers to fit them all in. Totak KW under bed: 27.6 and lots of cutting/welding/downtime to do.
Also of note, with a 1C discharge, the HP cells outperformed the new TS and Calb and maintain over 3.2V at that rate for about 45 minutes. HOWEVER this is from their data sheet so take that for what it's worth.