[Peet12]

Hello. I completed a vw bus conversion to a hyper9. Everything works as it should except the charger. I was briefly getting a half an amp coming from the charger then nothing. The can adaptor error light is on until I unplug can plug from charger. All other can components work as they should. I get 60 omhs across can high and low until I plug the charger in to 110. I then get no continuity across can high/low. I’m using the 110 volt plug it came with. Yesterday when I checked resistance at charger can plug, I got zero ohms. Can lines also went to zero. Not sure if charger was plugged into 110 or not but today when charger is plugged into 110 I get no continuity at charger plug. Until about 45 seconds after charger unplugged. I’m new to this but it’s been fun. Any insight greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

 

[Peet12]

Thanks for the reply.
I’m not sure what was on or off when I first started testing can lines. I’ll pay closer attention to that. It would explain why my readings were erratic.
By dead short you mean zero ohms? I did not get zero ohms at the plug yesterday but the day before all I got was zero ohms at charger can plug. Not sure the variable. I’ll pay closer attention.
Yes, ewert can adapter. I will try to disconnect reconnect battery from hv as you describe and report back.
I do not have the shielded lines grounded yet. Is this where the instructions say all these grounds need to be at the same place?
I am using can one lines on the Orion. I’m not sure what you mean by different devices on different busses. But I assume I am not.
Yes. Can adapter green and red light are on at the same time. The error does not seem to inhibit any other functions.
I’m not sure about the half amp. I briefly saw bms software showing -.5 amps. I assumed that was charge coming in. But I’m not really sure if that is what was actually happening.
I’ll keep working on it today and report back. Thanks.

 

[Peet12]

I have driven the van a few miles. Drives well. A friend brought a charger over and I am seeing -11 amps through the Orion software. So I was in fact briefly getting a half amp from the elcon.
I’ll read the rest of your reply more carefully and get back to you. Thanks.

 

[Peet12]

I think everything is at 500 baud. Receipt for the charger says 500 baud also. Could the charger actually be different than what the paperwork says? How would I know?

 

[Peet12]

I will try this thanks. I did not get a cd with my can adapter.

 

[Peet12]

The charger I’m using is an ancient Zivan. Not the best charger for the job but I monitor it closely while on.
I am now getting no continuity on the charger can lines. The plug coming from charger that is.
But when the sun comes up I will look at can data from software when I plug charger in. But still getting can adapter error light when charger gets plugged in.

 

[Peet12]

I get nothing happening on the live can read out when plug charger in. The can adapter error light comes on as the charger makes a small click. If I un plug charger the error light stays on for about a minute and goes out.

 

[Peet12]

I contacted the company that sold the charger. This is their reply. I’m not sure what to make of it. I now get no replies when I request clarification. What is this guy telling me?

 

[Peet12]

Yes I did hit play on the live can tab. No red blocks appeared. There were no changes in values when charger was plugged in. But error light came on.
I have 60 ohms when charger is plugged into bms. Until charger gets 110 volts.
Could the can high and lo be backward from the plug they made? I see the resistor but the polarity could be switched. Causing no problem from any device except the charger?

 

[Peet12]

This charger was doa. Can network corrupt. Everything else working perfectly. I’ve put about 200 miles on this hyper9 powered vw and it drives unbelievably well, flawlessly. I get about a 30 mile range.
I need a new can enabled charger. Any suggestions? I will not buy another elcon. They do not stand behind their product.
I was thinking Thunder struck chargers looks good and is local. Any thoughts on my new charger? Thanks

 

[Peet12]

Thanks for All the advice on my issue. I am about to open this elcon charger up to see if I can spot any obvious problems. Any advice as to obvious signs of can bus corruption I should be looking for? Can I turn this into a non can bus charger and just turn it on and off?
Thanks.

 

[Peet12]

Unfortunately there is a random-.5-.3 amp displaying in Orion software when not charging. Just a strange reading. This elcon was never charging. Local shop connected to their can diagnostics and just said can corrupt coming from charger side. This ev works perfectly in every aspect but the elcon. Doa

 

[Peet12]

Unfortunately there is a random-5-.3 amp displaying in Orion software when not charging. Just a strange reading. This elcon was never charging. Local shop connected to their can diagnostics and just said can corrupt coming from charger side. This ev works perfectly in every aspect but the elcon. Doa

 

[Peet12]

Thank you. I will look through these.

 

[Peet12]

I have never come across an Orion Candapter that is internally terminated (I just bench confirmed this also). If they were, connecting them to a proper bus would bring the bus resistance down below 60 ohms and not do any good.
I believe his charger was supplied with the harness stub for CAN so it was still a possibility that HI and LO were being used backwards.

Peet12:
Did the local shop try connecting to your charger with the can lines swapped also when testing and run thru the different possible baud rates with both configurations?

Finally got new charger. Bought from Hawkeyeinnovationsllc. Direct replacement and it works as it should. Finally charging through j1772 and the Orion bms. World of difference from trying to make the wrong charger work.