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NG3 chargers can't current limit on lithium batteries?

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We've been using an NG3 charger for the last several years to charge our lead acid pack. We originally had Electric Conversions install an optional low current mode switch on the NG3 so that we could charge on a standard 15 amp outlet while at work.

We're in the process now of upgrading our pack to lithium. Before we purchased the new batteries we had contacted Electric Conversions regarding modifying our NG3 to handle the lithium batteries. They said they would be able to modify the charging profile for our configuration.

Now, after just receiving the charger back from Electric Conversions we noticed that the low power option had been removed from our unit. They failed to mention this little detail to us. I contacted them and all I was told was we can't current limit on lithium batteries and it would take to much time to do. If you can current limit on lead acid why not lithium? If the hardware of the NG3 supports current limiting on lead acid it should be just as capable of current limiting on lithium. I realize that it might require a separate charging profile or something but it can be done.

My plan now is to figure out the profile programming of the NG3 and modify it myself. I have a lot of professional experience in reverse engineering electronic systems and feel that it can be done. I know a lot of people have been down this path before on here and have found some decent information. If anyone has information about the NG3 charger that would help speed up the process it would be appreciated.

Two lessons here, NG3s don't currently have a current limiting capability on lithium and avoid Electric Conversions. After reading some of the other posts on here, I'm not the only one to have problems with this company.
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I bought mine (S 2.4, Mahle Motor, 750km on the odometer/ T 2.4, Parker Motor, 56km / S3.4, 256km) all with broken batteries for around €200,- each.
More or less brandnew, but never recharged...
One Battery could be brought back to life, just added an ANT BMS, I built one battery with 105 Ah for the 3.4 and one with 38Ah for the S2.4, which weights only 11kg, makes it extremely responsive...
I drive all of them with our racing setups which I made for @Ursprung, just castrated to max speeds of around 55kmh... (not the 3.4 which makes 105:cool:)
Lots of Fun!!!
Good, that you have the IXXAT, that makes everything easy!
I can send you a short howto video and a good DCF for trying out...
Just have to change my Zivan experimentation table to sevcon, so tell me in advance, when you need something!
And maybe send me a pic of the motor label, there are two different Parker around for the Go series, I think the early 1.2 have the slightly stronger one...

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I can send you a short howto video and a good DCF for trying out...
Just have to change my Zivan experimentation table to sevcon, so tell me in advance, when you need something!
And maybe send me a pic of the motor label, there are two different Parker around for the Go series, I think the early 1.2 have the slightly stronger one...
I've created a new topic on my Govecs, thanks for your help! Want to keep this one a bit on-topic for any future visitors!

I've created a new topic on my Govecs, thanks for your help! Want to keep this one a bit on-topic for any future visitors!

Good idea, already felt a bit like hijacking this thread...
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Hey,

> PIN CHANGED IN THE PROJECT
I finally found time to solder a bit nicer board together. Must say this new setup looks great!

At this point I feel like the project is kinda finished! I'll probably use it as PSU for a while as test bench for the Sevcon setup.

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That looks really good!
Are the disturbances gone now?
No more "antennas" around...
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