[Batterypoweredtoad]

Here's some info I had bookmarked from this forum http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/nissan-leaf-motor-168410.html relating to spline count, shaft diameter, and possible clutch discs. It's a start.

 

[brian_]

In addition to the thread mentioned above (Nissan leaf motor) there is also an extended effort to build a coupler for a Leaf motor by dedlast, in 85 Supra conversion (near the end of the thread). That one uses part of the Leaf transaxle's input shaft, so the actual parts used are not quite what you would want... it's just a possibly useful information source.

 

[D a n n y^]

Maybe you could hit the junk yard and grab some old clutch parts and weld them onto some tubing?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F6EOl1YO9VI

The coupler I'm using will slide over both the transmission as well as the motor spline with minimal play.

Hope that helps!


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[zippy500]

Thanks will take a look.

I would be happy with just the input shaft and then just have it welded to a lovejoy connector

I have sent a email to Nissan parts if is possible to order just the input shaft from the gearbox. getting replies back that they need the VIN/Chassis number.

 

[Kevin Sharpe]

I have sent a email to Nissan parts if is possible to order just the input shaft from the gearbox. getting replies back that they need the VIN/Chassis number.

Try using the US based online parts vendors... I purchased parts from the Nissan battery without providing any vehicle info.

 

[zippy500]

......well hit a brick wall with Nissan, reply from them is the gearbox is only sold as a whole unit..

 

[dedlast]

I need to update my thread. My machinist friend convinced me that I needed to go back to my original idea for my build, which is to machine my own coupling. The Leaf input shaft is hardened and would be difficult to do much with besides weld and grind.

I have a CAD drawing with what I think is the right spline shape, or close enough, but I haven't taken the next step of having samples EDM'd to test it.

Bill

 

[zippy500]

be great if you could update your post to see what others are doing.

is it possible to have a spline coupler made, how much would one cost?

I see that old Fords (80's 90's) had 20 spline clutch plates has anyone tried one.

seems to be alot of 20 spline couplers available in the tractor industry!!

HELP- someone stop me--I feel my OCD coming on. I can see a lot of random 20 spline couplers packages coming through my door

 

[piotrsko]

Whoa pilgrim: measure spline sizes, spacings and diameters using a caliper. At this point even harbor freight $10 one will work. Then look at the specifications of the shafts to see what comes close. Might be just a case of some hand filing to get one that fits a standard SAE spline profile.

 

[hmincr]

There is someone on this site that went through the search for matching splines. They found something that fit perfectly. My search skills are terrible, but, someone should be able to find that info.

 

[dedlast]

For a slip fit, the clutch disk from an early '90's Geo tracker is perfect. It has a 7/8" 20-tooth spline and only has a little bit of free play.
For an interference (shrink on) fit, which is what I want so it stays on the motor shaft, I haven't found anything that fits.

Bill

 

[Duncan]

Why do you want a shrink fit?
It's designed to work with a sliding fit

 

[zippy500]

is a geo tracker a suzuki samari euro equivalent.

OK just a few steps back, if all else fails and go with a leaf input shaft what problems will arise?

Bill you have this part

Can the input shaft be cut down

Can it be welded?

Thanks

 

[D a n n y^]

is a geo tracker a suzuki samari euro equivalent.



OK just a few steps back, if all else fails and go with a leaf input shaft what problems will arise?



Bill you have this part



Can the input shaft be cut down



Can it be welded?



Thanks

Unfortunately at this time there is no easy answer to solving this coupler issue. But the existing piece from the Nissan gear box is definitely machinable. I had mine machined with no issues.

My 1986 Suzuki Samurai Re-Conversion?
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...rums/showthread.php?p=904178&share_pid=904178


Also the geo/samurai of that year should both work. If you decide to go that route I can provide you with the clutch part number, but you are better off buying one from a junk yard or finding someone who has a worn clutch.

 

[dedlast]

Why do you want a shrink fit?
It's designed to work with a sliding fit

Which on this forum doesn't mean much. After all, the motor you're using certainly wasn't designed for the use you're putting it to.

Also, using it as a slip fit in my setup will cause as much or more complication than designing something to use it as a shrink fit. And will take up about 3 times the space.

The input shaft is hardened, which should be a minor issue for a competent shop.

Bill

 

[brian_]

Why do you want a shrink fit?
It's designed to work with a sliding fit

The Leaf design has a sliding fit between a motor shaft (male spline) and a transaxle shaft (female spline), with both shafts being well-located in their own bearings.

In contrast, the DIY application needs to connect the male splined motor shaft to a male-splined transmission input shaft. That means another connector element (some sort of coupler), which needs to be located by something, which in turn means that it should be fixed to one shaft or the other.

 

[electro wrks]

Somebody should bring back the old Kaylor VW/aircraft generator style adapter plates to use with these Leaf motors:

This images are stolen from Pete's(One Green EV) blog about using the Kaylor adapter. The side of the bearing cartridge next to his right hand takes the male spline(I checked, it's not the same as the Leaf spline) of an old aircraft generator(run as a motor). You may recognize the typical aircooled VW flywheel spigot next to his left hand (see flywheel to the right). The two support bearings are in between. The cartridge slides into and snap ringed into the aluminum housing. This style adapter would be a great way to use these readily available Leaf motors with or without a clutch. Also, it's very easy to remove and reattach the motor.

P.S. Don't repeatedly stab your hand with a screw driver like I'm sure Pete is doing, putting the snap ring in! Get some good snap ring pliers.

 

[Hollie Maea]

Seems like still no one has a decent solution for this. I want an adapter that fits on the splines and then has a flange that bolts to the flywheel, but I'm dreading the cost of having a single piece machined. Would maybe some people be interested in doing like a group buy or something? maybe could design it with a blank flange and then people could tap their own holes for whatever flywheel pattern they happen to have.

Thoughts?

 

[onegreenev]

Lol. The snap ring was not that bad and my snap ring pliers were too small. It worked and I did not stab my hand.