[zeva]

Hi all,

A quick community service announcement: Earlier this year I got contacted by a Chinese company called Ovartech, whose website lists a range of chargers and DC/DC converters for electric vehicles. I couldn't find any independent reviews of the company or their products on Google, but thought I'd risk it and ordered a sample of their 1kW DC/DC for evaluation.

I placed the order on 31st January, paid for it on 2nd February, and as of 31st March am yet to receive it. So I would advise against ordering from this company until we have more evidence of their legitimacy. Hopefully this forum page will show up if anyone else out there finds themselves looking for information on this company before committing to an order.

If I do eventually receive the order, I will be sure to update this thread and provide an honest product review.

 

[Hollie Maea]

Interesting...we just ordered a charger from them yesterday as well...will also let you guys know if it shows or not.

 

[winzeracer]

Hi all,

A quick community service announcement: Earlier this year I got contacted by a Chinese company called Ovartech, whose website lists a range of chargers and DC/DC converters for electric vehicles. I couldn't find any independent reviews of the company or their products on Google, but thought I'd risk it and ordered a sample of their 1kW DC/DC for evaluation.

I placed the order on 31st January, paid for it on 2nd February, and as of 31st March am yet to receive it. So I would advise against ordering from this company until we have more evidence of their legitimacy. Hopefully this forum page will show up if anyone else out there finds themselves looking for information on this company before committing to an order.

If I do eventually receive the order, I will be sure to update this thread and provide an honest product review.

Bummer, any update on this? I almost ordered a sample from Frank as well?

 

[zeva]

Hi Brock, no news other than a further couple of emails exchanged with Frank. On 4th April I sent an email requesting an estimate on when the order would ship, and received a reply on 13th April, suggesting that it should ship around 20th April (i.e yesterday, but I haven't received any further updates).

 

[winzeracer]

Hi Brock, no news other than a further couple of emails exchanged with Frank. On 4th April I sent an email requesting an estimate on when the order would ship, and received a reply on 13th April, suggesting that it should ship around 20th April (i.e yesterday, but I haven't received any further updates).

Hi Ian, any update on this?

Thanks,
Brock

 

[zeva]

Hi Brock, nope nothing to report unfortunately - no shipment or updated ETA from them. I've basically given up asking about it now. It'll either turn up eventually or it won't.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone else who's had dealings with Ovartech actually, whether anyone has actually received products or it's all just a vaporware scam.

 

[Hollie Maea]

We haven't gotten ours yet, but Frank is staying engaged with us and asking technical questions like what we need for CAN specs...will update as things unfold.

 

[zeva]

A quick update - look what turned up today:

Build quality seems good. I will put it through its paces over the coming weeks and report back.

 

[baxy]

Hi Ian,
Sorry to hijack your thread on this public forum but I have tried to contact you regarding your products a few times through your website and through AEVA forums and have never received a reply, if you are still supplying your EV products could you please send me a PM detailing how to contact you privately
Regards

 

[zeva]

Hi baxy, sorry to hear you were having trouble getting in touch. We have had some issues with the website email system over the last month and I fear some messages may have been lost. (But AEVA notifications should have come through to me - I'll double check my settings there.) Anyway I'll send you a private message to continue the conversation.

 

[Blue Vision]

Hi, how does it work with the ovartech? does it meet its specs?

 

[Hollie Maea]

Interesting...we just ordered a charger from them yesterday as well...will also let you guys know if it shows or not.

Update: The charger was ridiculously late, but it DID show up, just now. Frank said he had problems with his tooling.

Haven't tried it yet but it looks nice enough...

 

[zeva]

Hi all,

I have some long overdue test results for the Ovartech DC/DC converter. The TLDR version is that it seems to work well, and if not for the long lead time (which the company is hopefully addressing) I would recommend them to others. I’d be interested to hear if anyone has bought more recently and can report on what their lead time was.

Quiescent current consumption
Some current values when its inputs and outputs are connected to things but turned off (i.e no 12V supplied to enable wires).

1.1mA backfeed on the 12V battery (i.e current flowing back into the DC/DC converter when off). Low enough that it’s safe to leave output side connected to a battery permanently.

37mA input current from the HV even when it is off (not enabled). So, it would be best not to have it permanently wired to your HV battery when not in use, or it could eventually flatten it. The HV input should be isolated by a contactor / relay when not in use.

Output regulation
Output voltage seems to be about 14.15V no load down to about 13.85V at 50A. About 50mV of this is probably due to drop in the 4AWG cables. 14.15V might be a bit high for some types of battery, e.g flooded lead acid? I use 4x Headway (LiFePO4) cells for my 12V battery so it charges them to about 3.55V each on average, which seems pretty safe.

Measuring efficiency under load
First test: 292V at 2.05A input (599W), 14.05V at 41.3A output (580W) = 97% efficient
Second test, slightly higher load: 291V at 2.51A input (730W), 13.85V at 50.1A out (694W) = 95% efficient

So, efficiency is good for an isolated converter, not too surprising to see reduced efficiency at higher loads, but also my measurement accuracy is probably ±1% anyway so take it with a pinch of salt.

Extended load test to check thermal performance
Continuous load of 45-50A (in my RX7 with power steering pump, high beams and fog lights on). Temperature measurements are approximate average around the heatsink (varies by a few degrees depending on where the temp gun is pointed). In still, open air.

T+0 21˚C (ambient)
T+10m 27˚C
T+20m 33˚C
T+30m 36˚C
T+40m 39˚C
T+50m 41˚C

So, nothing I need to worry about with the 50A maximum load on the 12V in my EV. (Also it will be installed in a location that gets some airflow when driving.) But could possibly benefit from some added convection cooling if it were used near its maximum rating and in a confined space.

Test results seem good overall, and it has several advantages over my existing IOTA DLS-55 (primarily the weatherproof housing, but also higher current capability, slightly higher output voltage and with less sag under load), so my next step will be to install it permanently in my RX7 and see how it goes long term.

 

[Blue Vision]

@ZEVA: tnx for your review, gives me a lot of info.
So you think OVARTECH has done a great job with this equipment, besides the leadtime.
Are you using an aircooled version or a watercooled?

If leadtimes are getting within expectations I will order also.

 

[zeva]

I have the aircooled version, the 1kW one without a cooling fan on the heatsink, i.e passive air cooling only. Luckily it seems like it won't get particularly warm in my EV.

I've been in the EV conversion game for about 10 years now and it has always been hard to find good DC/DC converters. Lots of them proved to be unreliable, or weren't really designed for the job. Most EV I've built personally have used IOTA DLS55s, which are technically an AC/DC power supply and are not weatherproof (open housing), but they worked fine with DC input and were quite reliable. But AFAIK they're no longer available, and the open housings make me nervous (just waiting for the day that dirt or water ingress kills it). So finding a better option was my original motivation for trying out one of the Ovartechs. The lead time was worrying, but I think if the company can address this and improve availability, they could do well.

It would also be good to see 100-200V versions of their DC/DC converters, since probably the majority of EV conversions are in that range.

 

[ovarcharger]

Hello all, I am Frank from Ovartech, we admit that we had some problems before on lead time, finally all our buyers received what they paid for.

Thing are getting better now, basically we have inventory for our hot sellers, for example:
3.3KW charger in 108V, 144V, 360V
6.6KW charger in 360V
1KW DC-DC converter in 360VDC.

Anybody who are going to order from us, please check with us the inventory before you issue a purchase.

www.ovartech.com

 

[Hollie Maea]

Hello all, I am Frank from Ovartech, we admit that we had some problems before on lead time, finally all our buyers received what they paid for.

Thing are getting better now, basically we have inventory for our hot sellers, for example:
3.3KW charger in 108V, 144V, 360V
6.6KW charger in 360V
1KW DC-DC converter in 360VDC.

Anybody who are going to order from us, please check with us the inventory before you issue a purchase.

www.ovartech.com

Thanks for sending the charger, Frank.

If you are interested in expanding your product line, you may wish to consider a 700VDC nominal (800VDC peak) charger. Quite a few people are moving in that direction to get more performance (and the new SAE DC fast charging standard now supports it). But currently there is only one 800VDC charger on the market and it is extremely bulky and extremely expensive. So if you were to develop an 800VDC charger similar in size and price to your current offerings, I think you would find little competition.

 

[brentmiller]

Hello everyone,

My name is Brent Miller and I am the Inventory Coordinator for New Eagle. New Eagle specializes in mechanization controls, which are the electronic brains that drive mechanical systems.

New Eagle currently has 11 OVAR DC-DC (EV 1kW DC/DC CONVERTER, AIR COOLED, 200-420VDC, 14VDC) converters available.

Please reach out to me if interested or if you have any questions regarding New Eagle or any of the products we carry. Thank you Brent

[email protected]
neweagle.net

 

[TheAutoGuy]

Hello all, I am Frank from Ovartech, we admit that we had some problems before on lead time, finally all our buyers received what they paid for.

Thing are getting better now, basically we have inventory for our hot sellers, for example:
3.3KW charger in 108V, 144V, 360V
6.6KW charger in 360V
1KW DC-DC converter in 360VDC.

Anybody who are going to order from us, please check with us the inventory before you issue a purchase.

www.ovartech.com

Hello Frank,
I'm interested in you bi-directional charger, what is your current lead time looks like?

 

[TeZla]

Best to email them directly.
it only took about a week to get mine from Ovartech (In China) But Australia is pretty close by.
StealthEV have the exact same charger, just rebranded. It'll probably be easier for you to get it from them once you factor currency conversion and freight charges considering your in the states