Get a Lexus GS 450h transmission. that’s the ideal swap for a old yota
While the Toyota L110 is a transmission, it has been suggested as a motor complete with transmission - you wouldn't use it with another motor.I have, so far, been operating under the assumption I could keep the original transmission, since its manual. Is this totally mistaken, or would moving to the L110 just make my life easier?
So, basically, you are suggesting to turn the truck into a hybrid EV?While the Toyota L110 is a transmission, it has been suggested as a motor complete with transmission - you wouldn't use it with another motor.
If you use a different motor, you may want to keep the truck's original transmission, or use a different transmission, or connect the motor to the rear axle without any other transmission... depending on the characteristics of the motor used.
I'm not really suggesting the L110 at all - that's Bratitude's suggestion. I may be mistaken, but I don't think that he's suggesting making it a hybrid, either; the idea is to use this transmission (which comes from a hybrid) by itself as the motor and transmission for your EV. The input shaft to the L110 wouldn't be used at all: no engine would be connected to it, so it wouldn't be used as a hybrid.So, basically, you are suggesting to turn the truck into a hybrid EV?
Ah, I see. Appreciate the clarification on that! Fascinating.I'm not really suggesting the L110 at all - that's Bratitude's suggestion. I may be mistaken, but I don't think that he's suggesting making it a hybrid, either; the idea is to use this transmission (which comes from a hybrid) by itself as the motor and transmission for your EV. The input shaft to the L110 wouldn't be used at all: no engine would be connected to it, so it wouldn't be used as a hybrid.
It's not an obvious solution, but it has some potential advantages over other designs:
- it works with your existing rear axle (or even a 4WD system);
- the engine motor and transmission fit in the original transmission tunnel, leaving the whole engine compartment available for battery, electronics, or even a front trunk.
The battery for any non-plug-in hybrid is tiny, with only about one kilowatt-hour of capacity, which is why it is cheap. It would be useless for an EV, providing a range of about two miles.The batteries for the 450h seem oddly cheap. I'll look into how many miles a pack you get.
Okay, butUsing a gs450h (rwd) or ls600h (awd) transmission
Pros:
- 350hp ish
- toyota part, most likely drops right in and bolts up to the drive shaft and crossmembers.
- leaves engine bay empty, more space for batteries!
- simple. not much fab work involved compared to adapting a motor to the original manual transmission
- designed to handle the torque.
I did not question that this transmission could be used, or that the result could be good.@brian_ the Lexus 450h transmission is commonly used in many conversions, some of which were extremely professional and amazing performing vehicles.
I also haven't suggested anything else, so perhaps you are thinking of someone else.The transmission output shaft can be adapted to a normal rear differential much easier than anything you have suggested especially a Leaf motor.
These are not insurmountable issues, but they are also not advantages for using new Toyota components in an old Toyota.
I agree!there’s plenty of conversions showing the capability. and power. This is modern hot rodding, what the oem original spec was, isn’t entirely relevant.
Example: Nissan Leaf is a 80kw car. The motor is 200kw-250kw capable. Batteries lack proper thermal management to provide the power, but the motor can take it.
It's actually not completely different. It's functionally the same as a Prius transaxle, but packaged longitudinally and with a mechanical transmission on the end. Those differences are beneficial in this case (the L100 from the GS 450h would be a far better choice for the Toyota pickup than the transaxle from a Prius), but the two motors plus power splitter design is still a less-than-optimal substitute for one motor.Brian has some issue with it because it's a "hybrid transmission" but it's completely different from other hybrid stuff...