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Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard

AH yes, the Mathis, I definately liked the lines, but never saw images like those and didn't know it was aluminum. I can also tell now, it was FWD, how fantastic. I love french auto design. (And german and english and US prototypes and Itallia and and) The Classic style I propose is a clipped image of a Delahaye.

The Mathis suffered heavily from the high supply of oil at that time, everyone was upsizing.

Thanks for the link, that's new images on 3wheelers.com.



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Estimating, Point of Sale, Tracking, Reporting Applications> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:06:41 -0700> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard> > <<< This is why I designed the DF www.detalidon.com . It's only a > chassis but at least it's a start. >>>> > Sounds like you might enjoy this car:> > http://www.3wheelers.com/mathis.html> > Interestingly, it also gets mentioned on the same page headed by a > latter-day 3-wheeler, the Aptera: > http://gadgets.boingboing.net/vehicles/ (about 2/3rds of the way down > the page)> > P.S. - would Aptera be the pleural of Apteryx, the genus name for the kiwi?> > _______________________________________________> For subscription options, see> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
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Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard

I must make a note about Aptera that keeps me in the game.

Aptera and others are working to an eventual price around 20-24k. That's too expensive to convince more than say 25% of the drivers. I'm proposing a vehicle in the 10K range. That makes it competitive with the gas money you save traded against an ICE drive in a conventional vehicle.



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Estimating, Point of Sale, Tracking, Reporting Applications> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:06:41 -0700> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard> > <<< This is why I designed the DF www.detalidon.com . It's only a > chassis but at least it's a start. >>>> > Sounds like you might enjoy this car:> > http://www.3wheelers.com/mathis.html> > Interestingly, it also gets mentioned on the same page headed by a > latter-day 3-wheeler, the Aptera: > http://gadgets.boingboing.net/vehicles/ (about 2/3rds of the way down > the page)> > P.S. - would Aptera be the pleural of Apteryx, the genus name for the kiwi?> > _______________________________________________> For subscription options, see> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
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Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard

I agree that a 20-24k Aptera is out of question for the majority. I look foreward to that 10k beastie. any more details on it?

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> I must make a note about Aptera that keeps me in the game.
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> Aptera and others are working to an eventual price around 20-24k. That's too expensive to convince more than say 25% of the drivers. I'm proposing a vehicle in the 10K range. That makes it competitive with the gas money you save traded against an ICE drive in a conventional vehicle.
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> Arak Leatham - Web and Desktop Systems Developer
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> Estimating, Point of Sale, Tracking, Reporting Applications> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:06:41 -0700> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard> > <<< This is why I designed the DF www.detalidon.com . It's only a > chassis but at least it's a start. >>>> > Sounds like you might enjoy this car:> > http://www.3wheelers.com/mathis.html> > Interestingly, it also gets mentioned on the same page headed by a > latter-day 3-wheeler, the Aptera: > http://gadgets.boingboing.net/vehicles/ (about 2/3rds of the way down > the page)> > P.S. - would Aptera be the pleural of Apteryx, the genus name for the kiwi?> > _____________________

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Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard

As a project it will be just sitting now, pending building up of funds. I need to put $2.5k into the current 'Taddy' chassis, or from $6 to 20k into creating the new/better one.

I'm still hopeing others will be inspired by the methods. The original Taddy would weigh in at 400-600lbs as a hybrid. The newer full-EV one would outfit up to 900 with a handbuilt light weight body.

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Estimating, Point of Sale, Tracking, Reporting Applications> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:10:43 -0500> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard> > I agree that a 20-24k Aptera is out of question for the majority. I look foreward to that 10k beastie. any more details on it?> > regards> harsha godavari> > Arak Leatham wrote:> > > I must make a note about Aptera that keeps me in the game.> >> > Aptera and others are working to an eventual price around 20-24k. That's too expensive to convince more than say 25% of the drivers. I'm proposing a vehicle in the 10K range. That makes it competitive with the gas money you save traded against an ICE drive in a conventional vehicle.> >> > Arak Leatham - Web and Desktop Systems Developer> >> > Estimating, Point of Sale, Tracking, Reporting Applications> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:06:41 -0700> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was!
Re: GM EV Commercial Heard> > <<< This is why I designed the DF www.detalidon.com . It's only a > chassis but at least it's a start. >>>> > Sounds like you might enjoy this car:> > http://www.3wheelers.com/mathis.html> > Interestingly, it also gets mentioned on the same page headed by a > latter-day 3-wheeler, the Aptera: > http://gadgets.boingboing.net/vehicles/ (about 2/3rds of the way down > the page)> > P.S. - would Aptera be the pleural of Apteryx, the genus name for the kiwi?> > _____________________> > _______________________________________________> For subscription options, see> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
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Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard

A 3-wheeler is halfway between a motorcycle and a car. It should be priced
as such.


-----Original Message-----
I must make a note about Aptera that keeps me in the game.

Aptera and others are working to an eventual price around 20-24k. That's too
expensive to convince more than say 25% of the drivers. I'm proposing a
vehicle in the 10K range. That makes it competitive with the gas money you
save traded against an ICE drive in a conventional vehicle.


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Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard

I agree, but how about between a scooter and a car? Some of those land-yats are well over 10K ;-)




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Estimating, Point of Sale, Tracking, Reporting Applications> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:25:07 -0700> Subject: Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard> > A 3-wheeler is halfway between a motorcycle and a car. It should be priced> as such.> > > -----Original Message-----> I must make a note about Aptera that keeps me in the game. > > Aptera and others are working to an eventual price around 20-24k. That's too> expensive to convince more than say 25% of the drivers. I'm proposing a> vehicle in the 10K range. That makes it competitive with the gas money you> save traded against an ICE drive in a conventional vehicle. > > > _______________________________________________> For subscription options, see> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
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Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard

Well, considering that many motor cycles already cost $20K+...what's your
point?
Are you saying that $24K is a fair price?

Personally I don't hink anyone can produce a Aptera equivelent 3wheeled
electric for only $10K. Even if you could do it with today's material
prices, by the time you get the design perfected, inflation will drive the
price up.
I'd love to see someone prove me wrong, but so far nobody has.

> A 3-wheeler is halfway between a motorcycle and a car. It should be
> priced
> as such.
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> -----Original Message-----
> I must make a note about Aptera that keeps me in the game.
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> Aptera and others are working to an eventual price around 20-24k. That's
> too
> expensive to convince more than say 25% of the drivers. I'm proposing a
> vehicle in the 10K range. That makes it competitive with the gas money you
> save traded against an ICE drive in a conventional vehicle.
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Re: [EVDL] 3-wheeling, was Re: GM EV Commercial Heard

Point taken...
=

Well I would LOVE to prove that wrong.. But I haven't the leverage, yet. It=
will take a serious combination of events, like financing mass production =
of a 3wheel motorcycle.
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Granted there isn't much insentive by the big boys, OR small boys. SO I'm g=
oing the Kit car route. When I can. If I can.



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