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Re: [EVDL] battery purchase

The first thing I would ask him, how much each of these 24 V batteries
weigh? What is the maximum ampere rating, not AH, but the ampere draw.
T-105's to the T-145's are rated for 800 amps.

Also if you have a plate short out on this battery, can he overhaul this
battery or do you have to replace the whole battery which is like replacing
four 6-volts batteries. Some battery shops do this type of maintenance on
fork lift batteries.

I prefer the smallest cell batteries my self. I would rather have 2 volt
cells which are actually call jars, that I can service my self which I can
pull off the tops, clean out the jars, or even replace a bad separator.

These type of fork lift batteries may be over 16 inches high and are gang
together by welding the cell post together with lead bars. I use to have
300 ah cells like these that weigh 40 lbs each and are about 18 inches high
to the top of the cap.

Roland


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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: [EVDL] battery purchase


> So I have been convinced to buy 6V flooded lead acid. After a week of
> calling local dealers, and searching on the internet, the best price I
> came up with for the T-105 was $125/battery at a local place. It ended up
> being a little cheaper than some internet places, because of no shipping.
> The last place I called quoted me $84/battery. It sounds as if this guy
> knows how to wheel and deal. I explain to him about what I am doing, and
> he just starts laughing. He thought it was very cool. I send him the
> link to the evalbum. Two days ago, I tell him I want to pick up the
> batteries the next day. He orders them in, but instead of the T-105, he
> orders Deka Pro-Master GC15. He thinks these are higher quality, and he
> tells me that they are generally high priced, but he is giving them to me
> for the same price. I am not sure if this is a deal or not. After the
> first day of contact, he emails me about a 24V, 510Ah forklift battery
> that he thinks will be better than the 16 6V ba!
> tteries. He has a baja type 69 bug, and is now thinking of doing the
> conversion as well. He might use his 24V forklift battery. Anyway, I
> can't tell the story in the proper way, but it was a fun experience. And
> who knows what his conversion might turn out to be.
>
> How do these Deka batteries compare to the Trojan T-105s? He thinks they
> are better. Does anyone have any experience?
>
> I assume I should seal these batteries in boxes, for both insulation
> purposes, and containment. What would be best? Wood, metal, plastic? I
> would like a low cost option if possible, but I don't want to sacrifice
> safety.
>
> I appreciate comments.
>
> Brian
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Re: [EVDL] battery purchase

Another thing you should keep in mind is the type of post you need. Sometimes the less expensive
battery has the wrong type of posts for high amperage EV use.

--- "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> So I have been convinced to buy 6V flooded lead acid. After a week of calling local dealers,
> and searching on the internet, the best price I came up with for the T-105 was $125/battery at a
> local place. It ended up being a little cheaper than some internet places, because of no
> shipping. The last place I called quoted me $84/battery. It sounds as if this guy knows how to
> wheel and deal. I explain to him about what I am doing, and he just starts laughing. He
> thought it was very cool. I send him the link to the evalbum. Two days ago, I tell him I want
> to pick up the batteries the next day. He orders them in, but instead of the T-105, he orders
> Deka Pro-Master GC15. He thinks these are higher quality, and he tells me that they are
> generally high priced, but he is giving them to me for the same price. I am not sure if this is
> a deal or not.

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Re: [EVDL] battery purchase

Boy does time fly. I wish I could have responded to this earlier, but things happen...

I looked at the proposed 24V battery. It is around 900 lbs. I don't know of the maximum current draw. When I was at the place picking up my batteries, he showed me the battery, and showed me the cells. We talked about how we could take out each individual 2 volt cell.

The height was nearly 2 feet tall. I really didn't think that this battery would work in my little VW. Sometimes, I even wonder about all 16 of the dekas...

Anyway, this answers some of your questions.

I have appreciated all comments I have received about building my car. Hopefully it will be on the road again soon, so I can tell you of my EV grin...
Brian


On Thu Aug 23 14:34 , Roland Wiench sent:

>The first thing I would ask him, how much each of these 24 V batteries
>weigh? What is the maximum ampere rating, not AH, but the ampere draw.
>T-105's to the T-145's are rated for 800 amps.
>
>Also if you have a plate short out on this battery, can he overhaul this
>battery or do you have to replace the whole battery which is like replacing
>four 6-volts batteries. Some battery shops do this type of maintenance on
>fork lift batteries.
>
>I prefer the smallest cell batteries my self. I would rather have 2 volt
>cells which are actually call jars, that I can service my self which I can
>pull off the tops, clean out the jars, or even replace a bad separator.
>
>These type of fork lift batteries may be over 16 inches high and are gang
>together by welding the cell post together with lead bars. I use to have
>300 ah cells like these that weigh 40 lbs each and are about 18 inches high
>to the top of the cap.
>
>Roland
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: [email protected]>
>To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" [email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:02 PM
>Subject: [EVDL] battery purchase
>
>
>> So I have been convinced to buy 6V flooded lead acid. After a week of
>> calling local dealers, and searching on the internet, the best price I
>> came up with for the T-105 was $125/battery at a local place. It ended up
>> being a little cheaper than some internet places, because of no shipping.
>> The last place I called quoted me $84/battery. It sounds as if this guy
>> knows how to wheel and deal. I explain to him about what I am doing, and
>> he just starts laughing. He thought it was very cool. I send him the
>> link to the evalbum. Two days ago, I tell him I want to pick up the
>> batteries the next day. He orders them in, but instead of the T-105, he
>> orders Deka Pro-Master GC15. He thinks these are higher quality, and he
>> tells me that they are generally high priced, but he is giving them to me
>> for the same price. I am not sure if this is a deal or not. After the
>> first day of contact, he emails me about a 24V, 510Ah forklift battery
>> that he thinks will be better than the 16 6V ba!
>> tteries. He has a baja type 69 bug, and is now thinking of doing the
>> conversion as well. He might use his 24V forklift battery. Anyway, I
>> can't tell the story in the proper way, but it was a fun experience. And
>> who knows what his conversion might turn out to be.
>>
>> How do these Deka batteries compare to the Trojan T-105s? He thinks they
>> are better. Does anyone have any experience?
>>
>> I assume I should seal these batteries in boxes, for both insulation
>> purposes, and containment. What would be best? Wood, metal, plastic? I
>> would like a low cost option if possible, but I don't want to sacrifice
>> safety.
>>
>> I appreciate comments.
>>
>> Brian
>> ---- Msg sent via @=WebMail - http://webmail.usu.edu/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> For subscription options, see
>> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
>>

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