Re: [EVDL] Battery testing (was Re: Where to buy Sky Energy?)
Sorry, reading my below questions really looks like I'm trying to be a smar=
t @$s, or put down someone else's efforts. Not my intention at all; sorry =
it's worded so poorly. I guess I was trying to offer my opinion that the b=
est way to test a typical battery a consumer would purchase would be for a =
consumer to purchase one. And it would bother me to know that some test re=
sults were thrown out without knowing what the results where, and why they =
were thrown out. Finally, I _am_ interested in battery testing, so I was w=
ondering what typical tests were, what equipment used, and what typical res=
ults are.
I hope I didn't come across as a jerk...
- Steve
> > I think the manufacturers should
> each send me a free 100
> > amp battery. =
> =
> (100 amp-hour battery?)
> =
> Wouldn't that insure that the manufacture sent you a
> pre-tested battery, possibly hand selected to exceed data
> sheet ratings? Seems to me the only way to ensure you
> get a 'typical' battery is to buy it yourself without
> letting anyone know it's a battery for testing.
> =
> > I will
> > do a clean non biased test, multiple times, multiple
> > batteries and use the
> > best test of each type to publish.
> =
> Why would you only publish the best test, and not all your
> data? So more manufactures would be willing to send
> you free batteries?
> =
> What equipment do you have? What testing procedure
> would you use? What would you measure and how?
> Do you have already published results from previous tests?
> =
> > =
> > Battery manufacturers that would like to be a part of
> these
> > tests can
> > contact me here at [email protected]
> > . I am most interested in
> > Thunder Sky, Sky Energy and High Power but I will test
> any
> > battery that any
> > manufacturer deems appropriate for the EV market.
> > =
> > Results will be shown on my webpage and excel spread
> sheets
> > will be
> > available for download. =
> > =
> > This is no joke, I will do this for the EV community
> and
> > myself of course.
> > =
> > Mark Grasser
> > =
> > =
> > =
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf
> > Of Lee Hart
> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:37 AM
> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Where to buy Sky Energy?
> > =
> > From: Mark Grasser <[email protected]>
> > > I am ready to buy my first four batteries. These
> will
> > be for test...
> > > Suggestions as to where to buy and where not to
> > buy...
> > =
> > If it's for a test, why not buy from several
> different
> > vendors? It's your
> > chance to play "Consumer's Reports" and see which
> vendors
> > are good or bad.
> > =
> > In this same vein, wouldn't it be great if someone did
> buy
> > a few of each
> > battery, and tested them, and published the results?
> I've
> > tried to do it,
> > but batteries are so expensive that it can't be done
> as a
> > hobby. So I've
> > wound up testing batteries for clients. Since they
> bought
> > the batteries and
> > paid for the testing, they "own" the data and I can't
> share
> > it.
> > =
> > To make it work, you'd need a club or coop, where
> everyone
> > chips in.
> > =
> > --
> > Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt
> the
> > one who is
> > doing it. -- Chinese proverb
> > --
> > Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377,
> > leeahart-at-earthlink.net
> > =
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Sorry, reading my below questions really looks like I'm trying to be a smar=
t @$s, or put down someone else's efforts. Not my intention at all; sorry =
it's worded so poorly. I guess I was trying to offer my opinion that the b=
est way to test a typical battery a consumer would purchase would be for a =
consumer to purchase one. And it would bother me to know that some test re=
sults were thrown out without knowing what the results where, and why they =
were thrown out. Finally, I _am_ interested in battery testing, so I was w=
ondering what typical tests were, what equipment used, and what typical res=
ults are.
I hope I didn't come across as a jerk...
- Steve
> > I think the manufacturers should
> each send me a free 100
> > amp battery. =
> =
> (100 amp-hour battery?)
> =
> Wouldn't that insure that the manufacture sent you a
> pre-tested battery, possibly hand selected to exceed data
> sheet ratings? Seems to me the only way to ensure you
> get a 'typical' battery is to buy it yourself without
> letting anyone know it's a battery for testing.
> =
> > I will
> > do a clean non biased test, multiple times, multiple
> > batteries and use the
> > best test of each type to publish.
> =
> Why would you only publish the best test, and not all your
> data? So more manufactures would be willing to send
> you free batteries?
> =
> What equipment do you have? What testing procedure
> would you use? What would you measure and how?
> Do you have already published results from previous tests?
> =
> > =
> > Battery manufacturers that would like to be a part of
> these
> > tests can
> > contact me here at [email protected]
> > . I am most interested in
> > Thunder Sky, Sky Energy and High Power but I will test
> any
> > battery that any
> > manufacturer deems appropriate for the EV market.
> > =
> > Results will be shown on my webpage and excel spread
> sheets
> > will be
> > available for download. =
> > =
> > This is no joke, I will do this for the EV community
> and
> > myself of course.
> > =
> > Mark Grasser
> > =
> > =
> > =
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf
> > Of Lee Hart
> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:37 AM
> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Where to buy Sky Energy?
> > =
> > From: Mark Grasser <[email protected]>
> > > I am ready to buy my first four batteries. These
> will
> > be for test...
> > > Suggestions as to where to buy and where not to
> > buy...
> > =
> > If it's for a test, why not buy from several
> different
> > vendors? It's your
> > chance to play "Consumer's Reports" and see which
> vendors
> > are good or bad.
> > =
> > In this same vein, wouldn't it be great if someone did
> buy
> > a few of each
> > battery, and tested them, and published the results?
> I've
> > tried to do it,
> > but batteries are so expensive that it can't be done
> as a
> > hobby. So I've
> > wound up testing batteries for clients. Since they
> bought
> > the batteries and
> > paid for the testing, they "own" the data and I can't
> share
> > it.
> > =
> > To make it work, you'd need a club or coop, where
> everyone
> > chips in.
> > =
> > --
> > Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt
> the
> > one who is
> > doing it. -- Chinese proverb
> > --
> > Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377,
> > leeahart-at-earthlink.net
> > =
> > _______________________________________________
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> =
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