Matthew <
[email protected]>wrote:
> Did he explain his statement about diesel cars causing as much damage as
> a 6 ton truck? I could see perhaps environmental damage, but do not
> understand road wear/damage, and the environmental is quickly alleviated
> (and better than a gasoline car) with switching to plant-based diesel
> fuel (rapeseed, for instance or Veggie Oil/Waste Vegetable Oil).
>
> So his statement has me perplexed. It's also the reason why it'll be
> difficult to get a diesel-electric hybrid in the States: CARB
> requirements in California do not allow for differences between a diesel
> fueled on dino, and a diesel fueled on rape/Waste Veggie Oil -- the
> emissions are quite different but CARB only judges on the worst-case
> scenario. I recall Aptera gave up trying on an electric-diesel hybrid
> and switched to gas... sad if you were hoping for a 100% local-fueled,
> affordable long-distance ride...
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:
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> Behalf Of George Tyler
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:54 PM
> To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV road taxes (was No ICE in 10 Years)
>
> An amazing thing about NZ, you can have dialog with government
> ministers.
> Some of us on NZEVA group wrote to the minister of transport saying that
> it
> would help the introduction of EV's to have them road user tax free for
> a
> few years and he actually responded, a government that listens to the
> people, can you imagine that!
> The situation for diesel car owners is not so good, they pay
> NZ$32
> per 1000km road user charges and also much higher license fees, I also
> wrote
> to the minister of transport about that as it was the same as a 6 ton
> truck
> pays! He replied that my little diesel car causes as much damage to the
> roads as a 6 ton truck.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
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[email protected]] On
> Behalf
> Of
[email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2010 6:07 p.m.
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV road taxes (was No ICE in 10 Years)
>
> On Tue, October 5, 2010 4:28 am, Lee Hart wrote:
>
> > If the goal of the system is to have people pay in proportion to how
> > much they use the roads, then the fee should be based on vehicle
> weight
> > and miles driven. These are both fairly easy to measure. They could
> > simply weigh the vehicle and check the odometer at each yearly
> > registration.
>
> We have this system in New Zealand. We call it Road User Charges. The
> law
> is written such that every vehicle running on fuel not taxed at source
> must pay road user charges. Petrol is taxed at source but diesel isn't.
> The RUC system is generally only talked about in the context of diesel
> but
> it also applies to electric vehicles. Electric vehicles were recently
> granted an exemption until 2013 (with the option to extend).
>
> See http://www.transport.govt.nz/ourwork/Land/RoadUserCharges/
>
>
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