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Re: [EVDL] Hijacked Thread

Please change the name of this thread if you are going to hijack it. I'd
rather not have my original thread associated with this discussion.

Eric


On 9/16/2010 2:02 PM, Dennis Miles wrote:
> Hi Pete :) ,
> Replied to your e-mail four days ago. Yes, I opened my "Big" mouth and
> I will stand behind what I said. It takes money to make money.
> I believe that the future of personal passenger transportation in this
> Century, will be Electric Vehicles. We hear a lot about the "Infrastructure"
> to provide charging opportunities everywhere. But, who will fix them? The
> drivers will not be "Hobbyists," from the EVDL list, but JUST drivers, with
> only the knowledge required for an "Operator's License." A chain of
> specialized Trade Schools is needed, like all the ones for Nursing, and
> Massage, and even Manicuring.
> Two groups need training, the present "Independent" Auto Mechanics
> (They can not get Dealer sponsored training.) and Others who are the vast
> group of "DIY" mechanics who fix their own and want to continue to do so.
> (Of the 3 million mechanics in the USA, more than a million do not work for
> dealerships, that is our basic target student pool. At this time the
> competition is virtually non existent.
> We need to kick the start button right now, I have been working on this
> for two years, no-one has been willing to listen to me but if you look back,
> what I said over a year ago is now becoming the popular position. Perhaps it
> is my background in Vocational Eduction for 20 years, participating in
> origination of programs in Medical Equipment repair and calibration,
> Electronic instrument repair and calibration, Industrial Electronics, Alarm
> system installation and service, and Personal Computer Repair. Over 6,000
> students graduated after taking my classes,
> I have the course curriculum, text lessons, workbooks, tests,and
> instructional video DVDs the course is 160 hours, four weeks @ eight hours
> daily or eight weeks @ four hours daily, (One or two months)and each four
> hour session is one hour of Book and lecture time, and three hours of
> hands-on either converting a modern sedan to electric, or a electric
> motorcycle build-up. (Sedan is with DC motor, Motorcycle is with AC motor.)
> Every trainee completes one or the other. We sell it, the market here is
> starved and desperate. pricing is $10,000 over cost, half is the actual
> tuition and half is given to the trainee with the Diploma, at Graduation.
> [That ratio may change to 75/25%.] No private school pays the student!
> Yes, my business plan shows how a $160,000 (Minimum of 80% of the
> $200,000 desired investment,) generates stockholders equity of a lot more
> than $4 million.
> >>"So $50,000 invested would net me 1 million in 5 years.?? NO, I will
> not open without sufficient Capital, 50% of new business fail due to being
> under capitalized. I need a minimum of $150,000 to start-up and properly
> promote and hire QUALIFIED staff. If you want to invest the first $50,000 I
> would accept that but understand I must raise the other $100,000 before
> proceeding to open and I would just hold it in "Escrow" until the goal of
> about $160K is raised. That is part of S.E.C.Regulation D, Rule 5
> requirements.
> I hope you have more questions, I am very enthusiastic, so this is
> long for an E-Mail.
> My business plan runs less than 20 "Slides" and I will forward that to you
> if you promise not to steal my ideas, or use the information
> "Inappropriately". Thank you for your inquiry.
> Please see also my web page at *WWW.DENNISLEEMILES.COM *
>
> Regards,
> Dennis Lee Miles
>
>
>
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dennis,
>
>> It is a mighty big claim that you are offering. In a nut shell you are
>> telling me and everyone on this list that if someone gave you $200000 you'd
>> pay them back 4 million in 5 years and I'd assume that you would also get a
>> quite tidy sum as well?
>>
>> Pete :)
>>
>> Hell, I could go borrow that give it to you make payments until you
>> returned my promised 4 million in 5 years and I'd be home free to do what I
>> wanted if properly invested. So $50000 invested would net me 1 million in 5
>> years.
>>
>> Damn, that is mighty tempting.
>>
>> As a business plan how do you plan on pulling that one off?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Dennis Miles wrote:
>>
>>
>>> *Actually it is too often a "Devil Investor" and they want<51%
>>>
>> ownership,
>>
>>> and you become an employee. That is not my preferred solution! Give me
>>>
>> 40
>>
>>> small investors and only $5,000 from each and I would make them all
>>>
>> richer
>>
>>> by about $100,000 in 5 years.
>>> Regards,
>>> Dennis Lee Miles (Director) E.V.T.I. inc.
>>>
>>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Lock Hughes<[email protected]>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Not sure I understand your question. I guess you mean thousands of folks
>>>> each paying $5 a month? My understanding of fundraising is that it is
>>>>
>> more
>>
>>>> cost-efficient for a start-up to have one angel investor paying 100% of
>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>> bills
>>>> --- On Fri, 9/10/10, Eric<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 4 very quick questions. The best Q&A will get posted in
>>>>> an upcoming report/article I'm writing.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an EV enthusiast, builder, or owner, would you support
>>>>> an EV research and development project with a $5/month donation?
>>>>>
>>>>> If yes, why?
>>>>>
>>>>> If no, why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> What do/would you want out of it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Eric Wichman
>>>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
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Re: [EVDL] Hijacked Thread

ok...

Eric

On 9/16/2010 5:41 PM, Dennis Miles wrote:
> From: Eric<[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hijacked Thread
> To: [email protected]
>
> Please change the name of this thread if you are going to hijack it. I'd
> rather not have my original thread associated with this discussion.
>
> Eric
> ============================================================
>
> Eric,
> Fortunately the (EVDL) is not your property. And you do not own a
> "Thread". There was no impropriety in the discussion below, In fact if you
> read the earliest posts the longer discussion was a result of my defending
> your request for responses. I was one of your first responses and I gave you
> a positive reply. Then others asked me to respond and I did so , clearly and
> concisely, and again with no negative comments only encouragement.
> To minimize the likelihood of being Hijacked in the future simply be
> more interesting and don't give others a reason to change to a more
> interesting topic. (Or be a little more "Thick Skinned" and don't go off
> into a rage, or others will jump your Thread for their "FUN")
> Regards,
> Dennis Miles
> ============================================================
> On 9/16/2010 2:02 PM, Dennis Miles wrote:
>
>> Hi Pete :) ,
>> Replied to your e-mail four days ago. Yes, I opened my "Big" mouth
>>
> and
>
>> I will stand behind what I said. It takes money to make money.
>> I believe that the future of personal passenger transportation in
>>
> this
>
>> Century, will be Electric Vehicles. We hear a lot about the
>>
> "Infrastructure"
>
>> to provide charging opportunities everywhere. But, who will fix them? The
>> drivers will not be "Hobbyists," from the EVDL list, but JUST drivers,
>>
> with
>
>> only the knowledge required for an "Operator's License." A chain of
>> specialized Trade Schools is needed, like all the ones for Nursing, and
>> Massage, and even Manicuring.
>> Two groups need training, the present "Independent" Auto Mechanics
>> (They can not get Dealer sponsored training.) and Others who are the vast
>> group of "DIY" mechanics who fix their own and want to continue to do so.
>> (Of the 3 million mechanics in the USA, more than a million do not work
>>
> for
>
>> dealerships, that is our basic target student pool. At this time the
>> competition is virtually non existent.
>> We need to kick the start button right now, I have been working on
>>
> this
>
>> for two years, no-one has been willing to listen to me but if you look
>>
> back,
>
>> what I said over a year ago is now becoming the popular position. Perhaps
>>
> it
>
>> is my background in Vocational Eduction for 20 years, participating in
>> origination of programs in Medical Equipment repair and calibration,
>> Electronic instrument repair and calibration, Industrial Electronics,
>>
> Alarm
>
>> system installation and service, and Personal Computer Repair. Over 6,000
>> students graduated after taking my classes,
>> I have the course curriculum, text lessons, workbooks, tests,and
>> instructional video DVDs the course is 160 hours, four weeks @ eight hours
>> daily or eight weeks @ four hours daily, (One or two months)and each four
>> hour session is one hour of Book and lecture time, and three hours of
>> hands-on either converting a modern sedan to electric, or a electric
>> motorcycle build-up. (Sedan is with DC motor, Motorcycle is with AC
>>
> motor.)
>
>> Every trainee completes one or the other. We sell it, the market here is
>> starved and desperate. pricing is $10,000 over cost, half is the actual
>> tuition and half is given to the trainee with the Diploma, at Graduation.
>> [That ratio may change to 75/25%.] No private school pays the student!
>> Yes, my business plan shows how a $160,000 (Minimum of 80% of the
>> $200,000 desired investment,) generates stockholders equity of a lot more
>> than $4 million.
>> >>"So $50,000 invested would net me 1 million in 5 years.?? NO, I
>>
> will
>
>> not open without sufficient Capital, 50% of new business fail due to being
>> under capitalized. I need a minimum of $150,000 to start-up and properly
>> promote and hire QUALIFIED staff. If you want to invest the first $50,000
>>
> I
>
>> would accept that but understand I must raise the other $100,000 before
>> proceeding to open and I would just hold it in "Escrow" until the goal of
>> about $160K is raised. That is part of S.E.C.Regulation D, Rule 5
>> requirements.
>> I hope you have more questions, I am very enthusiastic, so this is
>> long for an E-Mail.
>> My business plan runs less than 20 "Slides" and I will forward that to you
>> if you promise not to steal my ideas, or use the information
>> "Inappropriately". Thank you for your inquiry.
>> Please see also my web page at *WWW.DENNISLEEMILES.COM *
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dennis Lee Miles
>>
>> ==================================================
>>
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Dennis,
>>
>>
>>> It is a mighty big claim that you are offering. In a nut shell you are
>>> telling me and everyone on this list that if someone gave you $200000
>>>
> you'd
>
>>> pay them back 4 million in 5 years and I'd assume that you would also get
>>>
> a
>
>>> quite tidy sum as well?
>>>
>>> Pete :)
>>>
>>> Hell, I could go borrow that give it to you make payments until you
>>> returned my promised 4 million in 5 years and I'd be home free to do what
>>>
> I
>
>>> wanted if properly invested. So $50000 invested would net me 1 million in
>>>
> 5
>
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Damn, that is mighty tempting.
>>>
>>> As a business plan how do you plan on pulling that one off?
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Dennis Miles wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Actually it is too often a "Devil Investor" and they want<51%
>>>>
> ownership,
>
>>>> and you become an employee. That is not my preferred solution! Give me
>>>>
> 40
>
>>>> small investors and only $5,000 from each and I would make them all
>>>>
> richer
>
>>>> by about $100,000 in 5 years.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dennis Lee Miles (Director) E.V.T.I. inc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Lock Hughes<[email protected]>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Not sure I understand your question. I guess you mean thousands of
>>>>>
> folks
>
>>>>> each paying $5 a month? My understanding of fundraising is that it is
>>>>>
> more
>
>>>>> cost-efficient for a start-up to have one angel investor paying 100% of
>>>>>
> the bills
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>> --- On Fri, 9/10/10, Eric<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 4 very quick questions. The best Q&A will get posted in
>>>>>> an upcoming report/article I'm writing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an EV enthusiast, builder, or owner, would you support
>>>>>> an EV research and development project with a $5/month donation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If yes, why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If no, why not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do/would you want out of it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Eric Wichman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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