Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen? and EVs
Hydrogen doesn't have to be a boondoggle!!!! What if we try to find a way
to use hydrogen to make EVs better.
Where I work we have 3 hydrogen vehicles, the one I like best is the Taylor
Dunn truck, I can go for weeks and weeks without plugging it in or
refueling, plugging it in is hard it's just that (flame suit ON) I think
hydrogen is cheaper.
The other two vehicles are reciprocating engines, these are converted
engines they were designed for gasoline so efficiency is poor, but then
again for me hydrogen is cheap energy.
Would a hydrogen fuel cell make a great range extender?. Just think, you
have a 5.5kw fuel cell running in your range extender trailer, or under the
hood and the only thing you hear is the cooling fan, or maybe you want to
consider converting you gasoline generator to run on hydrogen. I can't wait
to get my Chevy Volt with a fuel cell range extender in it.
How for the hydrogen fuel, this all started many years ago when the company
wanted to go green, we were already at 70 % alternative fuel in the fleet
when the boss's decided to throw hydrogen in the mix. The boss went to the
local school and asked them to help, after 3 years of planning and building
we have a solar powered hydrogen fueling station and three vehicles. (kids
are great they don't think "I cant" they just say "what if")
Photo of the solar powered hydrogen refueling station.
http://www.all-energy.co.uk/UserFiles/File/2007RobertBoehm.pdf
http://www.lvvwd.com/html/news_hydrogen_fueling_station.html
Richard Furniss
is it suppose to smoke like that ?
No trees were harmed in the creation of this message. But billions of
electrons were terribly inconvenienced!
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert harder" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen? What connector is this?
>
>
>
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>> So why is Hydrogen such a popular idea? Because it sounds sexy. It
>> sounds future. It looks shiny. It seems so clean, because the citizen
>> only sees the water coming out of the fuel cell.
>>
>> The problem is, it just doesn't make sense. It's a boondoggle.
>>
>>
> Hydrogen is popular because it has the backing backing of big oil and
> therefore big $ I firmly believe that they all know it doesn't make sense,
> but oil is the cheapest source of hydrogen, and selling hydrogen instead
> of gas (if it somehow ever made it that far) requires more oil and more
> processing to get the same btu's, the oil companies get to keep and sell
> more by-product after they sell the fuel, and in the meantime the media
> and the general public are kept happy on the promise of rosy wonderland
> just around the bend while we funnel $ after $ to researchers who are all
> to happy to keep promising results "tomorrow" with just a bit more funding
> today....ahh the frustration
>
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Hydrogen doesn't have to be a boondoggle!!!! What if we try to find a way
to use hydrogen to make EVs better.
Where I work we have 3 hydrogen vehicles, the one I like best is the Taylor
Dunn truck, I can go for weeks and weeks without plugging it in or
refueling, plugging it in is hard it's just that (flame suit ON) I think
hydrogen is cheaper.
The other two vehicles are reciprocating engines, these are converted
engines they were designed for gasoline so efficiency is poor, but then
again for me hydrogen is cheap energy.
Would a hydrogen fuel cell make a great range extender?. Just think, you
have a 5.5kw fuel cell running in your range extender trailer, or under the
hood and the only thing you hear is the cooling fan, or maybe you want to
consider converting you gasoline generator to run on hydrogen. I can't wait
to get my Chevy Volt with a fuel cell range extender in it.
How for the hydrogen fuel, this all started many years ago when the company
wanted to go green, we were already at 70 % alternative fuel in the fleet
when the boss's decided to throw hydrogen in the mix. The boss went to the
local school and asked them to help, after 3 years of planning and building
we have a solar powered hydrogen fueling station and three vehicles. (kids
are great they don't think "I cant" they just say "what if")
Photo of the solar powered hydrogen refueling station.
http://www.all-energy.co.uk/UserFiles/File/2007RobertBoehm.pdf
http://www.lvvwd.com/html/news_hydrogen_fueling_station.html
Richard Furniss
is it suppose to smoke like that ?
No trees were harmed in the creation of this message. But billions of
electrons were terribly inconvenienced!
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert harder" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen? What connector is this?
>
>
>
>>
>> So why is Hydrogen such a popular idea? Because it sounds sexy. It
>> sounds future. It looks shiny. It seems so clean, because the citizen
>> only sees the water coming out of the fuel cell.
>>
>> The problem is, it just doesn't make sense. It's a boondoggle.
>>
>>
> Hydrogen is popular because it has the backing backing of big oil and
> therefore big $ I firmly believe that they all know it doesn't make sense,
> but oil is the cheapest source of hydrogen, and selling hydrogen instead
> of gas (if it somehow ever made it that far) requires more oil and more
> processing to get the same btu's, the oil companies get to keep and sell
> more by-product after they sell the fuel, and in the meantime the media
> and the general public are kept happy on the promise of rosy wonderland
> just around the bend while we funnel $ after $ to researchers who are all
> to happy to keep promising results "tomorrow" with just a bit more funding
> today....ahh the frustration
>
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