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Re: [EVDL] j1772 necessity revisited, "Conspiracy against new EVs?

Agree 100%, I been saying all along.

It is ludicrous to have to pay for a $3000 extension cord that has a diode
and a resistor in it.

The "Charge Port" smarts necessary can be run with a $3 PIC..


Dennis Miles <[email protected]> wrote:

> Would you buy an appliance if an outlet costing 15% of the price was
> required to plug it in?
> Price Gouging in the USA is highly frowned upon and in times of Emergency
> is
> often illegal. We arrested and fined individuals after Hurricane Andrew in
> Miami and Katrina in New Orleans for selling portable electric generators
> for premium prices of two to ten times the usual.
> Why then are we allowing dozens of firms all over the USA to charge the
> American Public *twenty times the usual price* for an electric outlet and
> installing it in their garage? Requiring citizens to waste $2,750 more th=
> necessary.
> What am I talking about? The so called =93Charging Stations=94 being ins=
> in the homes of every individual who wants to buy a =93Plug-In =93electric
> vehicle. An Electric or Hybrid Plug-In Vehicle is required to have a
> =93Specialized Outlet=94 to connect the charging unit actually located in=
> Vehicle. WHY ?
> In every home laundry area are two outlets, one is for the Washer it is 1=
> v. @ 15 a. and there are dozens of outlets all around your home just like
> that (Stated simply, If you can plug in a Toaster, you can usually plug in
> an EV.)The other one is for the Electric Dryer it is 208 to 240 v. @ 30 a.
> If
> you own a Recreational Camper those come with a cord that plugs right in =
> one or the other, but if you get a new Electric Vehicle, you must buy a
> $3,000 socket and cord set and pay an additional $1,000 TO $2,000 to have
> it
> installed. However to add an additional Dryer Outlet only costs about $250
> including the parts needed.
> Why then does an EV need a $5,000 outlet? Because, the Underwriter=92s
> Laboratory said it? That is not reasonable. The only justification is
> Safety, but I can plug a $300,000 RV bus into a =93Dryer Outlet=94 and the
> 10,000 plug-in vehicles in the USA today can plug into a =93dryer outlet=
=94 or
> a
> =93Standard home outlet=94 So that argument is unsubstantiated. If ther=
e is
> concern to have a =93Ground Fault=94 protection, build it into the car. T=
hat is
> the proven method with Recreational Vehicles like Motor-homes.
> IMHO, the j1772 connection is inhibiting the public adoption of Electric
> "Plug-In" Vehicles. I ask "Why should we pay to have data collected
> regarding our habits? Let the utilities pay , Why should we pay for this
> Data collection so the "Charging Station" companies can then SELL the data
> to the electric Utilities? The Idea does not sit well with me. Do you Li=
> it ? ? ?
> --
> Regards,
> *Dennis Lee Miles* (Director) *E.V.T.I. inc*.
> *www.E-V-T-I-Inc.COM <> *(Adviser)*
> EVTI-EVAEducation Chapter
> *
> Phone (813) ID4 - E V T I or (813) 434 - 3884
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