Re: [EVDL] Kandi: Chinese Reverse Merger | $865 Coco nEV by goingOkie
Martin,
This is not about fast-charging but about swapping.
And this particular car comes without the option
to charge at home, you will be *forced* to visit
the swapping station to get a fresh charged pack.
I don't think that will work, but we'll see.
Regards,
Cor van de Water
Director HW & Systems Architecture Group
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Martin WINLOW
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Kandi: Chinese Reverse Merger | $865 Coco nEV by
goingOkie
Cor,
Surely one isn't going to *need* a re-charging station every few blocks
as most EV-using city dwellers/visitors will be able to charge at home
for 95% of their use. This is one of the EV's main advantages over the
ICE-based auto scene. The need for fast re-charging stations away from
the main population centres however is imperative.
Agree 100% with Bill tho - Lead is dead (in the context of a future EV
populated world).
Regards, Martin Winlow
Herts, UK
http://www.evalbum.com/2092
www.winlow.co.uk
Martin,
This is not about fast-charging but about swapping.
And this particular car comes without the option
to charge at home, you will be *forced* to visit
the swapping station to get a fresh charged pack.
I don't think that will work, but we'll see.
Regards,
Cor van de Water
Director HW & Systems Architecture Group
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.com
Skype: cor_van_de_water IM: [email protected]
Tel: +1 408 383 7626 VoIP: +31 20 3987567 FWD# 25925
Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 XoIP: +31877841130
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Martin WINLOW
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:05 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Kandi: Chinese Reverse Merger | $865 Coco nEV by
goingOkie
Cor,
Surely one isn't going to *need* a re-charging station every few blocks
as most EV-using city dwellers/visitors will be able to charge at home
for 95% of their use. This is one of the EV's main advantages over the
ICE-based auto scene. The need for fast re-charging stations away from
the main population centres however is imperative.
Agree 100% with Bill tho - Lead is dead (in the context of a future EV
populated world).
Regards, Martin Winlow
Herts, UK
http://www.evalbum.com/2092
www.winlow.co.uk
Cor van de Water wrote:
> Another issue is that it will not be easy to have swapping stations as
> dense as gas stations located every few city blocks, so you need to
> drive more to get to and from the swapping station, besides your
> normal daily driving. Who wants to drive more if the best
> characteristic of any EV is that you can charge at home - except this
> one?
>
> The $6 per swap means that the car is not cheaper in operation than
> other efficient vehicles, because nobody will get the advertised 150km
> range, especially if the swapping station is another 10 km away from
> you and you don't like to gamble on the last electrons to arrive
> there, then you have no more than 100-120km of range, which is
> typically not achieved under normal driving so assuming normal driving
> you might have about 80 km.
> This is 50 miles for $6 and this means that many efficient ICE
> vehicles will beat the operational cost of this EV.
>
> So, unless the vehicle is very attractively priced or can be leased or
> used as "Greenwheels" type of rent-as-you-go I doubt that this model
> will work.
> But as always, time will tell...
>
> Cor van de Water
> Director HW & Systems Architecture Group Proxim Wireless Corporation
> http://www.proxim.com
> Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.com
> Skype: cor_van_de_water IM: [email protected]
> Tel: +1 408 383 7626 VoIP: +31 20 3987567 FWD# 25925
> Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 XoIP: +31877841130
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Bill Dube
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:30 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Kandi: Chinese Reverse Merger | $865 Coco nEV by
> going Okie
>
> They plan a lead-acid "swap only" EV. No on-board charger. No home
> charging allowed. You swap the 1000 lb lead-acid battery for $6.
>
> Anyone that knows anything about lead-acid knows this scheme is
> doomed.
> The lead-acid batteries will sit for days (hot days) partially charged
> or even fully discharged between swaps. Sulfation will ruin these
> batteries in just a few cycles as they sit in the heat discharged.
>
> http://www.thetradingreport.com/2010/12/08/kandi-technologies-%E2%80%9
> 3- an-intelligent-vehicle-electrification-plan/
>
> It will work with any other battery technology but lead-acid. They
> have partnered with a lead-acid battery manufacturer, so lead-acid it
> will be.
>
> Bill D.
>
> At 09:59 PM 1/19/2011, you wrote:
>
>> Kandi: Chinese Reverse Merger -> long-term loser
>>
>> http://wallstcheatsheet.com/breaking-news/who-played-a-hidden-role-in
>> -t
>> hese-chinese-reverse-mergers.html
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