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Re: [EVDL] Motor coupler issues / was Looking for a Conversion Kitfor a 1929 Ford.

Hey Mike,

I'm using gear couplers. I used the 5016 series, so pretty beefy. They've
held up fine; it's really the keys that take the beating. Well, now the
keyways, too, after installing tool steel keys. At this point, it's clear
that new armature shafts are needed, so I'll enjoy this setup while it
lasts. Don't worry, I've got Jim's number on speed dial.

When we put the motors back together Shawn welded the coupler directly onto
the shaft so it's not going anywhere for awhile:

http://www.jouleinjected.com/welded.jpg

This was another reason why the rearmost motor had to be moved up to the
front. The motor that was previously up front has a pretty clean output
shaft--or at least it did when it went into the car.

I'll check out the "Flex" hubs. So both ends you're coupling are 1 1/8" --
you have one TransWarp9 and one Warp9? Aren't these just straight shafts
with the 1/4" keys?

Matt Graham
300V Nissan 240SX "Joule Injected"
http://www.jouleinjected.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of MIKE WILLMON
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:49 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Motor coupler issues / was Looking for a Conversion
Kitfor a 1929 Ford.

Matt,
What coupler were you using? Was it a Taperlock or a Gear Coupler?
As Jim can attest the new DE shaft on that TransWarp9 looks much better that
the 1-1/8 DE on the WarP9.
My concern is still the interface between the two however. I'm going with a
1-1/8" to 1-1/8" Dodge Gear Coupler with the "Flex" hubs on both sides.
Jim wound up pressing them on for me over the keyed spline.

Did you say you were shearing the keys? which is why I was wondering if you
were using Taper-Lock or press fit Gear hubs.

Mike,
Anchorage, Ak.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Husted wrote:
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> Hey Matt
>
> I thought your issue was in the final output drive
> shaft? and not the coupler interface?
>
> The TransWarp9 does come with the same 1 1/8th keyed
> shaft (for the tailshaft) as the standard 1 1/8th
> keyed output shaft on the Warp9 or ADC 9's which
> should be a lot stouter than the tailshaft you've had
> to deal with. Anyway I know you split your final
> output shaft but wanted to see if you've also had
> issues with the couplered shaft keys?
>
> Cya
> Jim Husted
> Hi-Torque Electric
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Re: [EVDL] Motor coupler issues / was Looking for a Conversion Kitfor a 1929 Ford.

Yep 1-1/8" DE on the WarP9 to 1-1/8" CE on the TransWarP9

The drive end of the TransWarp9 looks stout. You can see pics up on Jims site.
I'm wishing Netgain would beef up the shaft design all together on the plain old WarP9.

Here's the Gear Coupling I picked in size 1.0
http://www.dodge-pt.com/pdf/catalog/pt_components/2004_pdf/gear_fea_ben.pdf
and
http://www.dodge-pt.com/pdf/catalog/pt_components/2004_pdf/gear_sel_dim.pdf

And pics of said couple on motors at the Wayland Invite:

http://home.gci.net/~saintbernard/NetGain_TransWarP9_Hi_Torque_Electric.jpg
http://home.gci.net/~saintbernard/NetGain_WarP9_Hi_Torque_Electric_gear_coupler.jpg
http://home.gci.net/~saintbernard/NetGain_WarP9_Hi_Torque_Electric_left.jpg
http://home.gci.net/~saintbernard/NetGain_WarP9_Hi_Torque_Electric_right.jpg

I may want to think about have new shafts built up and on hand. Shipping costs on these babies back to Jim would kill me more than having to ship them for repair. But I know Jim secretly wishes to see them again. Hopefully the only place he'll see them again is at my track ;-)

Mike,
Anchorage, Ak.


----- Original Message -----
Matt Graham wrote:
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> I'll check out the "Flex" hubs. So both ends you're coupling are 1
> 1/8" --
> you have one TransWarp9 and one Warp9? Aren't these just straight
> shaftswith the 1/4" keys?
>

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Re: [EVDL] Motor coupler issues / was Looking for a Conversion Kitfor a 1929 Ford.

--- Matt Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've got Jim's number on speed dial.

Hey Matt

Yeah, but you never call me 8^P and when you do it's
usually butthead 8^o I knew you'd split the final
drive but not the little shafts key (that or I forgot
about it) Either way, you've become quite the little
motor whore haven't you 8^) Maybe shaft whore is
better worded ;^) LMAO.

Anyway I was thinking that maybe you should try
rubbing a little Viagra on those shafts and see if you
can stiffen them up a bit before you race next 8^o

I always keep a sharp blade on the hacksaw so you just
say when you want me to cut them couplers off for ya,
hehe.

Anyway good to see you post 8^)

Cya
Jim Husted
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Re: [EVDL] Motor coupler issues / was Looking for a Conversion Kitfor a 1929 Ford.

For transmision conversions for RWD, it would be cool if someone came up
with a new DE plate that had a big bearing and a large flange.
the shaft in this beast would present a SBC crank cut right out of the
solid.

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Re: [EVDL] Motor coupler issues / was Looking for a Conversion Kitfor a 1929 Ford.

I'm just getting my Chevy Turbo 350 buttoned back up. My next step is to
take the trans, the motor, and a chevy crank over to the machine shop and
asking if he can make taper lock hubs that look like SBC cranks. I hope
he's interested in some work.

One thing I'm scratching my head about. The ADC 9" motor I picked up used
does not have a pilot bearing hole in the output shaft, which sounds like a
good thing for strength. Just the keyway. Were they all supposed to have
that pilot hole? My motor does not have an ID plate on it, and it's been
chrome plated. Makes me wonder what else is different about mine that may
affect the project, especially if the original shaft end with pilot hole was
cut off.

I'm clueless about couplers, what's a DE plate? A coupler that accepts
standard taper lock bushings maybe?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Shanab" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Motor coupler issues / was Looking for a Conversion
Kitfor a 1929 Ford.


> For transmision conversions for RWD, it would be cool if someone came up
> with a new DE plate that had a big bearing and a large flange.
> the shaft in this beast would present a SBC crank cut right out of the
> solid.
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Re: [EVDL] Motor coupler issues / was Looking for a Conversion Kitfor a 1929 Ford.

--- Marty Hewes <[email protected]> wrote:

The ADC 9"
> motor I picked up used
> does not have a pilot bearing hole in the output
> shaft, which sounds like a
> good thing for strength. Just the keyway. Were
> they all supposed to have
> that pilot hole? My motor does not have an ID plate
> on it, and it's been
> chrome plated. Makes me wonder what else is
> different about mine that may
> affect the project, especially if the original shaft
> end with pilot hole was
> cut off.
>
> I'm clueless about couplers, what's a DE plate? A
> coupler that accepts
> standard taper lock bushings maybe?

Hey Marty

ADC does not make their shafts with the pilot hole.
I've cut some into a couple for those who needed it.
I believe I saw pics of that chrome plated ADC9 and
it's an ADC 9 (if it's the one I saw) and has an OEM
shaft. Boring out the hole isn't a hard machining job
but would require you to remove the armature from the
motor. IMO it does weaken the shaft but I have no
proof or data to confirm that.

Hope this helps.
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric





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Re: [EVDL] Motor coupler issues / was Looking for a Conversion Kitfor a 1929 Ford.

Hey Marty

A DE plate is the drive end plate that is attached to
the motor that the output shaft sticks out of.
The CE (comm end) plate is the brush end plate of the
motor.

Hope this helps.

Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric

> I'm clueless about couplers, what's a DE plate?



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