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Re: [EVDL] Motor Stink

> I have a 24/36 volt forklift motor that sees well over 220 volts
> from my 360 volt pack at near 5000 rpm with as much as 1800 motor
> amps.It went from 108F last night to 124F in 4 qt.mile passes in
> 105F ambient at the end of the night.The comm is a golden brown this
> morning.Maybe its not the motor at all, Jim Husted has rebuilt
> thousands of motors so I would look elsewhere 1st. Dennis Berube

...and does Jim know your technique for making a motor handle six
times the voltage *and* amps that it would normally see in its
previous life, or are there secrets in the biz that just don't get
shared?

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--- [email protected] wrote:

> Maybe its not the motor at all, Jim Husted
> has rebuilt
> > thousands of motors so I would look elsewhere 1st.
> Dennis Berube

Hey all

Nobody's perfect and bats a 1000 all the time.
Sometimes shit just happens and I've had a few "can
you believe this" type motor happenings over the years
8^( so I've learned to listen to the guys running
them. I am hoping that Jude's just doing some Kevlar
curing.

> ...and does Jim know your technique for making a
> motor handle six
> times the voltage *and* amps that it would normally
> see in its
> previous life, or are there secrets in the biz that
> just don't get
> shared?

Actually FT is running 12 volt motor/s at 120
volts(although I'm sure he's got some voltage sag) on
FrankenDraggon. Data tags can be useful but can also
be misleading.

As for me I have no idea what Voodoo magic Dennis does
(I was only willing to sell my soul for a 1000
years)(maybe he wen't all-in) 8^P

FWIW I wish only the betterment of the sport and to
have a little fun along the way and try to post what I
learn so others learn from both success and failures
8^)

Cya
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric




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Re: [EVDL] Motor Stink

In a message dated 9/2/2007 10:01:13 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
> Motor Stink
> Date:9/2/2007 10:01:13 AM US Mountain Standard Time
> From:[email protected]
> Reply-to:[email protected]
> To:[email protected]
> Received from Internet:
>
>
>
>

> --- [email protected] wrote:
>
> >Maybe its not the motor at all, Jim Husted
> >has rebuilt
> >>thousands of motors so I would look elsewhere 1st.
> >Dennis Berube
>
> Hey all
>
> Nobody's perfect and bats a 1000 all the time.
> Sometimes shit just happens and I've had a few "can
> you believe this" type motor happenings over the years
> 8^( so I've learned to listen to the guys running
> them. I am hoping that Jude's just doing some Kevlar
> curing.
>
> >...and does Jim know your technique for making a
> >motor handle six
> >times the voltage *and* amps that it would normally
> >see in its
> >previous life, or are there secrets in the biz that
> >just don't get
> >shared?
>
> Actually FT is running 12 volt motor/s at 120
> volts(although I'm sure he's got some voltage sag) on
> FrankenDraggon. Data tags can be useful but can also
> be misleading.
>
> As for me I have no idea what Voodoo magic Dennis does
> (I was only willing to sell my soul for a 1000
> years)(maybe he wen't all-in) 8^P
>
> FWIW I wish only the betterment of the sport and to
> have a little fun along the way and try to post what I
> learn so others learn from both success and failures
> 8^)
>
> Cya
> Jim Husted
> Hi-Torque Electric
>
I feel I owe my potential future sponsors and myself and the people I have
and will build motors for just a few last tricks I have not written and told
folks about. Really series motors have been out for a long time, and a lot has
been written on them. It is not Voodo!Bill and others did not believe moveable
brush timing would help, I think he now believes. My aim this year is to take
out John Waylands record (he jabbed me to many times last year about HEADS UP)
with a much heavier truck and almost half the battery power and only 1 motor.
By the end of next year I should have lithums as well and will bring out the
equipment to take on Bills Killacycle.At that time I may open up a little
more. Dennis Berube
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>. It is not Voodo!Bill and others did not believe moveable
>brush timing would help, I think he now believes.

It isn't that I didn't believe that movable brush timing
would help in some way. However, there wasn't much point in wasting
my time (and money) twiddling with motors when they weren't blowing
up. I was concentrating my efforts on getting powerful batteries
instead. This proved to be a smart move.

The goal is to go faster. I choose to spend my time on the
things that make the biggest difference in performance, like batteries.

Adjustable brush timing, by itself, does not make the bike
go any faster. The bike runs slightly slower with adjustable brush
timing, actually. All it did was keep the motors from blowing up.
Since the motors are not blowing up, we can take the next step and
push more HP into them (until they do.) ;-)

Bill Dube'

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Re: [EVDL] Motor Stink

In a message dated 9/4/2007 6:37:54 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
> e: [EVDL] Motor Stink
> Date:9/4/2007 6:37:54 AM US Mountain Standard Time
> From:[email protected]
> Reply-to:[email protected]
> To:[email protected]
> Received from Internet:
>
>
>
>
> >. It is not Voodo!Bill and others did not believe moveable
> >brush timing would help, I think he now believes.
>
> It isn't that I didn't believe that movable brush timing
> would help in some way. However, there wasn't much point in wasting
> my time (and money) twiddling with motors when they weren't blowing
> up. I was concentrating my efforts on getting powerful batteries
> instead. This proved to be a smart move.
>
> The goal is to go faster. I choose to spend my time on the
> things that make the biggest difference in performance, like batteries.
>
> Adjustable brush timing, by itself, does not make the bike
> go any faster. The bike runs slightly slower with adjustable brush
> timing, actually. All it did was keep the motors from blowing up.
> Since the motors are not blowing up, we can take the next step and
> push more HP into them (until they do.) ;-)
>
> Bill Dube'
You re an engineer Bill so I am sure you will collect the data that proves
that the adjustable timing will indeed make your bike go faster and the side
benifit is its keeping your motors alive! You will learn where to shift the
brushes to improve your 60ft.times and then get lots of mph. Again,congrats on your
amazing feats this year. Dennis Berube
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