Re: [EVDL] Nope, was Re: Another Lithium source ?
Electrovaya doesn't appear to be chinese though and I didn't find them
on global sources. they seem to have products and even claim their
batteries are used in the nasa EVA space suits. but sell their
products... why would they
Dan
Electrovaya doesn't appear to be chinese though and I didn't find them
on global sources. they seem to have products and even claim their
batteries are used in the nasa EVA space suits. but sell their
products... why would they
Dan
Marty Hewes wrote:
> Something you want to keep in mind looking through Global sources or even
> going to trade fairs, often they are advertising a concept just to do market
> research. They may not even have a working prototype. They come up with an
> idea, maybe a dummy model, pull some specs out of thin air, and pretend it
> will be available shortly. If the specs seem improbable, it's usually
> because the product doesn't even exist. If some huge company starts talking
> contracts, then they develop the product, or try at least. The finished
> product will often show up 6 months later and not meet the original pipe
> dream specs. If a buyer comes along that wants to purchase a quantity too
> small to fund the development, you won't hear back from them and it never
> happens.
>
> You'd be surprised how many traders are out there with no product trying to
> land a contract with Walmart or GM, figuring they'll find a supplier in
> Mainland China after they bag a customer large enough to make them rich.
> Taiwan and Hong Kong are full of these guys, and they've got the act down
> pretty well. Many of them figure they'll get one shot at it, and they
> couldn't care less if the product they deliver is any good. We've all seen
> the results. Buying a product without a QC guy of your own over there (one
> that's immune to payoffs) is always a crap shoot. I'm afraid standing
> behind a product is a somewhat foreign concept over there. Often, once the
> money changes hands, it's your problem. Afterall, up until recently, there
> was no free market in China. The Chinese got whatever the government
> produced, or nothing. Choice and customers demanding quality are not
> concepts ingrained in their society. We saw the same problem with crap
> coming out of the ex USSR when the wall came down. A Russian friend of
> mine, who had worked in factories over there, told me that the good workers
> built military hardware, the drunks and losers were put to work making
> consumer goods, and very little effort was put into QC on that stuff. The
> govermnent was mostly just trying to keep them busy.
>
> Many companies that buy from China have a rep over there to watch production
> and do quality control before paying for anything. Jukka is in exactly the
> right position to do us a lot of good, and from previous experience in an
> unrelated joint development project, I have great respect for the Finnish
> work ethic and values. How else do you explain Nokia kicking Motorola's
> butt. The previous experience with ThunderSky was not unusual for a
> shipment of goods going out without a representative of the customer on
> premises doing QC.
>
> For those of you that have worked in development, some of these asians do it
> like our marketing guys do it, only with a little more BS, a little less
> reality, and very short term goals and objectives.
>
> Marty
>
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