Re: [EVDL] TS chemistry Was A123 chem, and alota Other Stuff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Tikhonov" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] TS chemistry Was A123 chem
> That's right. Why bother to report some tests results on EVDL
> or indicate how cheap they are then? How given cells actually
> perform and cost makes NO difference if no one is going to buy
> them. And, given circumstances, no one really should.
> If you do, you encourage company keep doing what they are doing,
> giving them the message there is nothing wrong here, business as
> usual. If money keep flowing in, why bother to change anything.
>
> Victor
Hi Victor an" EVerybody;
China is gunna have to clean up their act! They are gettuing away with
selling so much unsafe crap(food) here that even the dumb Anerican Sheeple
will wake up and quit buying their shit. IF this happens they will clean up
their act? If loosing their biggest customers doesn't change thing? EVer try
buying something at Targets oe Wal*Marts that ISN'T made in China? Good
ruck! That goes for Harbor Fright, too! I have gotten decent Chinese stuff
there. Buyt the Toyo Tires ya think would be made in Japan? Nope! China! At
least my Nokians were made in Finland, sed so, right on them! So THERE a
Nobody tells a Major Power to Clean up their Act<g>!Only on Line in the USA!
Good on ya, Jukka! IF you can get Thunder Sky to clean up their act. I
think you have that in mind?We NEED a power source that will be competitive
with Led Acid. Gees! Have ya priced a battery pak TODAY? Gpt a quote for
Rolls T -90 equilivent, thicker plates MAY last [email protected] EACH in quantity.
I need about 40 for Dave's truck and my Sentra.A Pallot would be nice about
40? ANYBODY anywhere doing less than a hundred bux for T105 Equilivents?
Fess up!
Just got off the fone with my local distibuter(Trojan, Mass) Are ya
sitting down? T-105's- 155.19, T- 125's -181.46, and (Forgetaboutit!)
T-145's 236.90!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has No Name equilivents at T-105- 121.94 A
T-125 at 142.27. Same One Year Gaurantee.But I just got off the horn with my
local Interstate dealer. He has US 2200's for 85, WITH the 15 core charge or
100 bux Without a dead badd-ery. Sheesh! I wish I hadn't taken a load down
to the Junk Yard in New Haven and got 5 bux or LESS I don't remember, but
they gave my 3-4 bux , ANY battery, VW to Golf Cart! One thing ALL the
battery folks tell me" Buy NOW!" we will be getting a price increase, end of
the month"FEH! They wern't kidding! So my local guy, no shipping charge? Is
best price NO brake on, say a pallot load.
Guyz this is highway robbery! Whatthehell, with the number of battery
builders countable on the fingers of one hand, they can do what they like,
price wise, I;, mnot even mentioning the Opyimas and sealed units of that
type. Just crappy, entry level, training wheels, type dumb Golf Carts!
Sigh!To get the "Good Stuff" as NAPA is talking about on the Radio, ya gotta
dig deep!Another Chinese conspirisy here. To make lead a precious metal, as
they know WE in USA don't mine lead any more the Eco Nazis shut down the
mines, years ago. WHY the junked battery flow won't even keep close to the
EV demand? In these daze of 3 bux a gal gas, I can assume it works the same
way with batteries. EV's use a LOT of batteries! I know a battery guy here
that USED to make his own, assemble then in CT. The Eco Nazis shut him down
YEARS ago, TOOK his machinery even! I was sniffing around, for a local
builder of batteries. Hah! Good luck! We don't MAKE stuff here anymore.
I sure hope Jukka can get Thunder Sky to clean up their act?It will be
anarchy here, battery wise, the Chinese will own the market. Just hope they
will make decent ones. It took Toyota and Honda, VW and others to get
Detroit to clean up their automotive act!. Chinese cars are on the way. Hope
some will be decent, we don't NEED any more NEV's. A China Job you can drive
on the freeway, dignity intact, like an EV -1 or Rav-4? By then I may have
my Sunrise already, or Freedom?I'll just get a bigger garage<g>!With the
wierd and wonderful, whimsicle Chinese passion for Names of stuff, (Thunder
Sky) a CAR should be interesting. "Joyfull Messenger" was one that comes to
mind. Howbout Blue Sky batteries?
Well, not the Joyfull Messenger with badd-ery priceds today.
Seeya
Bob
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Tikhonov" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] TS chemistry Was A123 chem
> That's right. Why bother to report some tests results on EVDL
> or indicate how cheap they are then? How given cells actually
> perform and cost makes NO difference if no one is going to buy
> them. And, given circumstances, no one really should.
> If you do, you encourage company keep doing what they are doing,
> giving them the message there is nothing wrong here, business as
> usual. If money keep flowing in, why bother to change anything.
>
> Victor
Hi Victor an" EVerybody;
China is gunna have to clean up their act! They are gettuing away with
selling so much unsafe crap(food) here that even the dumb Anerican Sheeple
will wake up and quit buying their shit. IF this happens they will clean up
their act? If loosing their biggest customers doesn't change thing? EVer try
buying something at Targets oe Wal*Marts that ISN'T made in China? Good
ruck! That goes for Harbor Fright, too! I have gotten decent Chinese stuff
there. Buyt the Toyo Tires ya think would be made in Japan? Nope! China! At
least my Nokians were made in Finland, sed so, right on them! So THERE a
Nobody tells a Major Power to Clean up their Act<g>!Only on Line in the USA!
Good on ya, Jukka! IF you can get Thunder Sky to clean up their act. I
think you have that in mind?We NEED a power source that will be competitive
with Led Acid. Gees! Have ya priced a battery pak TODAY? Gpt a quote for
Rolls T -90 equilivent, thicker plates MAY last [email protected] EACH in quantity.
I need about 40 for Dave's truck and my Sentra.A Pallot would be nice about
40? ANYBODY anywhere doing less than a hundred bux for T105 Equilivents?
Fess up!
Just got off the fone with my local distibuter(Trojan, Mass) Are ya
sitting down? T-105's- 155.19, T- 125's -181.46, and (Forgetaboutit!)
T-145's 236.90!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has No Name equilivents at T-105- 121.94 A
T-125 at 142.27. Same One Year Gaurantee.But I just got off the horn with my
local Interstate dealer. He has US 2200's for 85, WITH the 15 core charge or
100 bux Without a dead badd-ery. Sheesh! I wish I hadn't taken a load down
to the Junk Yard in New Haven and got 5 bux or LESS I don't remember, but
they gave my 3-4 bux , ANY battery, VW to Golf Cart! One thing ALL the
battery folks tell me" Buy NOW!" we will be getting a price increase, end of
the month"FEH! They wern't kidding! So my local guy, no shipping charge? Is
best price NO brake on, say a pallot load.
Guyz this is highway robbery! Whatthehell, with the number of battery
builders countable on the fingers of one hand, they can do what they like,
price wise, I;, mnot even mentioning the Opyimas and sealed units of that
type. Just crappy, entry level, training wheels, type dumb Golf Carts!
Sigh!To get the "Good Stuff" as NAPA is talking about on the Radio, ya gotta
dig deep!Another Chinese conspirisy here. To make lead a precious metal, as
they know WE in USA don't mine lead any more the Eco Nazis shut down the
mines, years ago. WHY the junked battery flow won't even keep close to the
EV demand? In these daze of 3 bux a gal gas, I can assume it works the same
way with batteries. EV's use a LOT of batteries! I know a battery guy here
that USED to make his own, assemble then in CT. The Eco Nazis shut him down
YEARS ago, TOOK his machinery even! I was sniffing around, for a local
builder of batteries. Hah! Good luck! We don't MAKE stuff here anymore.
I sure hope Jukka can get Thunder Sky to clean up their act?It will be
anarchy here, battery wise, the Chinese will own the market. Just hope they
will make decent ones. It took Toyota and Honda, VW and others to get
Detroit to clean up their automotive act!. Chinese cars are on the way. Hope
some will be decent, we don't NEED any more NEV's. A China Job you can drive
on the freeway, dignity intact, like an EV -1 or Rav-4? By then I may have
my Sunrise already, or Freedom?I'll just get a bigger garage<g>!With the
wierd and wonderful, whimsicle Chinese passion for Names of stuff, (Thunder
Sky) a CAR should be interesting. "Joyfull Messenger" was one that comes to
mind. Howbout Blue Sky batteries?
Well, not the Joyfull Messenger with badd-ery priceds today.
Seeya
Bob
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