Re: [EVDL] TS warnings, Re: New HEV and EV
Personally, I'd consider dropping some money to buy a battery pack from them
if they would #1 resolve the old issues and #2 support the product with a
meaningful warranty. I really think the way to approach this is to see if
we could develop a relationship to where we could place a good size order
and deduct a refund for the previous bad batteries from the purchase price
(or get some additional cells included free of charge). If we can put
together a big enough order (with a reasonable expectation of quality) that
they can cover the replacement of the old bad cells out of their profit on
the new order, it becomes a win-win situation and everyone may come out of
this much happier. Assuming they are capable of building a good battery
(and it looks like we have the testing talent to determine if they can), we
may develop a good supplier who understands our expectations, and get the
people who got shorted last time taken care of. But it's much more likely
to happen if they can see how they can do it without actually paying out
cash by simply making less on a larger group order. Nobody likes to pay out
cash.
The trouble is that going for the throat instead of being more proactive
would make such a solution far less likely. We've all got to be able to see
this as a bump in the road on the way to a good working relationship in the
future, not a battle, or the most likely outcome is that everybody loses.
Any hard core negotiater will say that the idea is to come up with a
solution that allows everyone to save face. If we could pull this off, we
could get replacement batteries for those who got junk, and a batch of
better batteries for a good price. They get out from under a bad situation
that they don't want to pay cash to fix (and I really suspect that's not
expected in their business culture, so they may very well see it as an
outrageous request), and possibly get an ongoing profitable market for their
product.
The biggest barrier to getting anything done well in China is the lack of
expertise and experience over there. They don't have the legions of
experienced engineers, production engineering and QC people over there that
we do here. They've got some good people, but they are spread pretty thin.
Nowhere near enough to serve all the factories they need running to employ
and feed their huge population. A joint development effort utilizing some
of the resoures we've got on this list with a production facility over there
might just be very effective. That's how outsourcing is done effectively.
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From: "Glenn Saunders" <
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] TS warnings, Re: New HEV and EV
> What would we do for them, and why do you think it would help?
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> Personally, the only organizing that I would think would help
> significantly
> is organizing to show them what we could do for them if they were to get
> their act together.
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