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Rear subframe for Tesla Model 3 RDU

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I'm starting to work on the chassis for my swap project. I initially thought I was going to use the entire Model 3 rear subframe, but I didn't end up going that route for various reasons.

In the hot rod world, there are a few manufacturers that build chassis using some Corvette suspension geometry, so I decided to attempt the same.
I managed to get access to a C7 Z06 corvette on a lift, so I 3D scanned the whole suspension setup, front and back (pictured rear).

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My goals here would be to use the spindle, upper and lower control arms and toe adjustment link from the Corvette in a package that mounts the Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit. I'm also hoping to make the drive unit removable from the bottom somehow.
I might use a different brake setup, but there are lots of options for Corvettes.

I'm just starting on this, so I am very much open to ideas and critique. I'll post some progress when I make any.
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Nice scan.

I would not knock myself out in making the DU bottom-removable if it's mounted in a removable cradle. If you're welding the cradle in, then obviously, yeah.
Thanks! That's a good point, it just depends in which direction the design will go in. I need to do a full chassis, so my first thought was the chassis was going to be one piece, but maybe I can reconsider that.
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Which scanner are you using, btw?
I have a pair of scanners, an Artec Leo and an Artec Space Spider that I bought as a pack.
I did this scan using an Leo. It's great for big stuff like this and gets enough detail where the scan is usable for a rough reverse engineering.
Once I am pretty sure this will work out, I'll buy the spindle, A arms and links and scan them with the Space Spider for a much better accuracy and detail.
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So after an initial test fit, it looks like the suspension pieces and the motor will sorta fit together in a package that will fit the car.

Next step was to buy the C7 pieces so I can get some detailed 3D scans, so they can be reverse engineered accurately. Interestingly enough, the lower A arm was on national backorder, so I wasted some time trying to track down a new one, and eventually buying an entire assembly off eBay. Pictured here, 3D scans of the knuckle, upper and lower A arms. I also have the rear stabilizer bar, the dust shield and the wheel bearing which I scanned together as an assembly.
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What car is this going in?
1949 Cadillac 60 Special, I have a build thread for it as well!
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And here's some initial drawings with some of the geometry "correct", that is with the track width of the car the same as the original car. All the suspension pick up points are where they need to go, the motor is in place smack in the middle of the subframe and aligned with the wheel bearing holes. There's still room for some changes there, needs to have some bracing added, probably some impact shield in the bottom front, provisions for sway bar, etc... But the concept is there and I think it will work!

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Any feedback is appreciated!
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The rear subframe is almost complete. Not many changes from last time, except for a removable top brace that gets bolted in place. Motor has to come out through the top, hence the bolt-on design.
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Here's a quick gif of the suspension flex, the two sides are mirrored right now:
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One interesting thing I noticed in the C7 Corvette suspension design is that under compression, there is quite a bit of "toe-in gain". I think this is basically a static rear steer mechanism, the rear wheel that is under load will "turn" when the car tilts to the outside of a turn in the same direction as the front wheel.
This is a top view of the subframe with the suspension flexed quite a bit, maybe a bit past where the bump stops would be, just to visually exaggerate the effect. At ride height, there is a very very small amount of toe-in.
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The very last piece that is missing is a rear sway bar, I think I'll probably use a splined sway bar kit, I found a few suppliers for it.

Next post here will probably be some metal parts cut and welded! I think this piece will work out just fine!
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I would have gone with two transverse pieces, vs the one, each connecting one of the upper control arm pivots to the other side. You have room for it, so I don't see a need for weird loading that singular cross piece's ends, though if you assume no cornering loads the coilovers are coupled.

Did you check articulation to clear the coilovers (for that vehicle weight) I'm guessing you're using?
Good point, maybe I'll switch it in the future for an X-brace or something similar, although if you look in the first scan all the way at the top, the shock mounting location is pretty close to where the brace is.

As for your other question, I'll be using a coilover setup for the corvette, and I can just get the appropriate size springs when time comes. I'm pretty sure they will fit, since I'm using the exact geometry as the original.
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