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sepex controller for 96V motor ?

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Hello from south of France.

I am searching a Separately Excitated Motor Controller for a 96V sepex motor. It's easy to find/48/72/80 V, but difficult to find for 96V sepex motors.

This motor is the original motor of the Electric Piaggio Porter, a EU version of the Daihatsu Hijet electric, with an Italian sepex motor from Brusa (motoribrusa) ( 11KW) . I have bought this vehicle without the controller... and I don't know what is the original model, but I have found that the other former 84V Piaggio porter had a Zapi controller. So, may be, it's the same brand for the 96V.

I have found the ZAPI SEM 3 FS9002 who should works for 96V, but impossible to buy ( not succeded yet). Do you know some alternative controller for 96V sepex motors ?

My motor

Thank you for your answer.
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Hello from south of France.

I am searching a Separately Excitated Motor Controller for a 96V sepex motor. It's easy to find/48/72/80 V, but difficult to find for 96V sepex motors.

This motor is the original motor of the Electric Piaggio Porter, a EU version of the Daihatsu Hijet electric, with an Italian sepex motor from Brusa (motoribrusa) ( 11KW) . I have bought this vehicle without the controller... and I don't know what is the original model, but I have found that the other former 84V Piaggio porter had a Zapi controller. So, may be, it's the same brand for the 96V.

I have found the ZAPI SEM 3 FS9002 who should works for 96V, but impossible to buy ( not succeded yet). Do you know some alternative controller for 96V sepex motors ?

My motor

Thank you for your answer.
Hi
Kelly had once the 120V KDC 400A and 600A SepEx which worked for our Peugeot 106 electric car with Leroy Somer 120V/90V Sep Ex.
Looking at your specs they seem somewhat similar (96V/96V 500A?).
Kelly's KDC does not seem to exist anymore as product.
But you could test your motor by applying a fixed voltage to the field winding (for example 24 V with 2 12V batteries) and a (brushed) 120V 400A Series DC-controller input to the armature.
Be careful to have a light load (lift the wheels at the drivetrain of the car up)
Before that test UNPLUG the electric motor connections and measure the Ohmic resistance of armature and field.
The armature winding should have a resistance of about 0,5 OHM
The field winding should have a resistance of about 6-8 OHM
If confirmed then connect the field to batteries and armature to series-controller
If this is the case the functionality is most likely like this:
At the start (high torque, low speed) field winding has high voltage and armature low.
At the end when car is driving (low torque, high speed) field winding has low voltage and armature high.
(your test with a light load probably can spin up the motor to 3000 RPM).

You could use a (mechanical) switch (with dc-relay) to create 3 stages
1) Field Voltage about 80 V. High torque
Series controller (on armature) spins up motor to max (1000 RPM)
2) Field Voltage about 30V.
Series controller (on armature) spins up motor to max (3000 RPM)
2) Field Voltage about 10V. High speed, low torque
Series controller (on armature)spins up motor to max (6000 RPM)

For the start pedal is only connected to the Series controller
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Thank you very much for the informations and the trick to use 3 fixed stages.

Since my questions, I have also found another Italian sepex controller builder : Elektrosistem , they have "SECU" device for 24V-96V and 160A-600A separately excited motors. It 's enough for my Piaggio Porter motor. They also have "Phoenix" controller for 24V-120V and 600A-900A separately excited bigger motors. I have found one Secu 40 / 96, for around 700 euros. The programming is made with a USB_serial cable. I will post here my settings.
Thank you very much for the informations and the trick to use 3 fixed stages.

Since my questions, I have also found another Italian sepex controller builder : Elektrosistem , they have "SECU" device for 24V-96V and 160A-600A separately excited motors. It 's enough for my Piaggio Porter motor. They also have "Phoenix" controller for 24V-120V and 600A-900A separately excited bigger motors. I have found one Secu 40 / 96, for around 700 euros. The programming is made with a USB_serial cable. I will post here my settings.
Ok great you found that, go on with that and please post info in this thread, I am curious to know how it works. The specs look good.
The KDC was not able to handle very high Regen without blowing the controller. I blew one that was just about 50% Regen. Blew right away. Not surprised that they pulled that model. Wow. looks like they pulled all the SepEx controllers from the lineup.
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