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Due to current life circumstances I need to part with this project car.

It’s a 1984 Porsche 928S that was converted to an EV by a prior owner.

It’s been sitting in the driveway for a few years, the battery pack is removed, but remaining parts include:

Zilla 2k controller w/ hairball
Advanced DC FB-4001A Series Wound DC 9" w/ set of replacement brushes
Motor mounted to stripped transmission, 2 remaining gears
Torque tube to rear wheels
Elithion BMS that was never installed
Replacement plexiglass rear hatchback & quarter panel windows
Misc wiring, fuses, gauges, relays
Cover

Needs to be towed.
Currently registered as Planned non-op in Santa Clara, CA.

Has a CA EV title.

Asking $1000

Thanks!

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Paint job seems to be love it or hate it, I didn’t feel the need to change it when I bought the car, it definitely grew on me.

Good question on the rear steering, I believe so, looks like all the control arms are there. I didn’t do any modification there, but can’t say whether the prior owner did.
 

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Is plexiglas street legal for car windows? I didn't think it was.

Agree with Matt that the rear wing is hideous and I'd note that it goes against wanting a low Cd (low drag) that the car body might have offered otherwise.
 

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Good question on the rear steering, I believe so, looks like all the control arms are there. I didn’t do any modification there, but can’t say whether the prior owner did.
The 928's "Weissach axle" had "passive steering", which means that the toe changes in a planned way in response to suspension forces. As long as it has the stock lower control arms and bushings, this feature is intact.
 

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Due to current life circumstances I need to part with this project car.

It’s a 1984 Porsche 928S that was converted to an EV by a prior owner.

It’s been sitting in the driveway for a few years, the battery pack is removed, but remaining parts include:

Zilla 2k controller w/ hairball
Advanced DC FB-4001A Series Wound DC 9" w/ set of replacement brushes
Motor mounted to stripped transmission, 2 remaining gears
Torque tube to rear wheels
Elithion BMS that was never installed
Replacement plexiglass rear hatchback & quarter panel windows
Misc wiring, fuses, gauges, relays
Cover

Needs to be towed.
Currently registered as Planned non-op in Santa Clara, CA.

Has a CA EV title.

Asking $1000

Thanks!

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Hi. Driving down to Bay Area next week. This looks perfect for my next project. I hate forums- jut call or text me @ 541.390.8918. Will
 

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All I see I a bunch of spray cats not looking to buy the car, just pick it apart and be internet tough guys. EABOD
You joined the forum justs to possibly buy a car from someone who joined the forum just to sell the car. You can imagine that you matter... but you don't. It also doesn't matter if the car sells or not, since it's not really being sold by a forum member, so whatever discussion comes up is okay.
 

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Is plexiglas street legal for car windows? I didn't think it was.
It probably is legal. Soft plastic windows were commonly used in convertible tops, and typically I don't think that any side or rear windows are required at all. The legal restriction for side and rear windows would be against using non-tempered and non-laminated glass, since it breaks into dangerous shards. Acrylic (such as Plexiglas®) - or better, polycarbonate such as Lexan® - is sometimes substituted for glass in street-driven competition vehicles (such as this is supposed to be) and I haven't heard of anyone having a problem with it.
 

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Agree with Matt that the rear wing is hideous and I'd note that it goes against wanting a low Cd (low drag) that the car body might have offered otherwise.
The 928 isn't really low-drag; I've seen it listed as
  • 0.41 for the original
  • 0.38 for the S
  • 0.34 for the S4
0.41 is pretty bad and much higher than, for instance, a 924. Even 0.34 isn't low by today's standards.

The wing is not pretty, but breaking airflow away from the unfortunately rounded tail may reduce drag, although it is probably intended to reduce lift (or just to look "racy").
 

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All I see I a bunch of spray cats not looking to buy the car, just pick it apart and be internet tough guys. EABOD
What you see is what you want to see.

We may pick the car apart and learn things (like discuss drag, plexiglas windows, and 4 wheel steering methods for this model to LEARN and exchange ideas that may benefit other builds), but you picking it apart to resell the pieces is pissing on the hundreds of hours put in by the original builder. Nobody here but you is doing that.

People usually join this forum to restore cars. You not having any use other than reselling the pieces is being a parasite vs a craftsman.

The point of the pricing is to have someone restore the work. OP can resell the zilla and hairball for the ask on the whole car.

The car's worth double the ask, imo. Nobody should double their money for taking four bolts off.
 

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Is plexiglas street legal for car windows? I didn't think it was.

Agree with Matt that the rear wing is hideous and I'd note that it goes against wanting a low Cd (low drag) that the car body might have offered otherwise.
It's my understanding it's OK for the rear/sides (technically the material for the replacement is not plexi, it's polycarbonate).
However, I believe the front windshield needs to be DOT approved Auto Glass. The front windshield on the car needs to be replaced. Right now it is Lexan, and showing it's age, scratched, yellowed. It was put on to drop weight, as the prior owner did track the car.

"buy a car from someone who joined the forum just to sell the car. " - I joined and have browsed over the years (since 2016), but never really had anything to post, so not just to sell the car. Came here first as this would be the best place for someone who knows a bit more what they'd be getting into.

"OP can resell the zilla and hairball for the ask on the whole car. " - Yes, thought long and hard about this one, but all the while the car still sat while I was thinking about it. Eventually the wife had enough ;)
Taking out just the Zilla would then leave me with the rest of the car.
I'm looking for someone to take it all, I just don't have the time right now to either part it out or rebuild.

Really appreciate the discussion though, and thanks for looking!
 

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Downforce is not free. It gets paid for in drag.
Lift is not free; it gets paid for in drag. ;)
A bit of a spoiler to make a silly rounded tail into a Kamm tail reduces drag, while reducing lift. If you want to squash the rear of the car down on the ground like a Formula 1 car, that adds lots of drag, induced by generating downforce; in a roadable vehicle, neutral (no lift or downforce) is the best one can reasonably hope for from a spoiler.
 

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Is plexiglas street legal for car windows? I didn't think it was.
It probably is legal. Soft plastic windows were commonly used in convertible tops, and typically I don't think that any side or rear windows are required at all. The legal restriction for side and rear windows would be against using non-tempered and non-laminated glass...
It's my understanding it's OK for the rear/sides (technically the material for the replacement is not plexi, it's polycarbonate).
However, I believe the front windshield needs to be DOT approved Auto Glass. The front windshield on the car needs to be replaced. Right now it is Lexan...
Since the original post didn't mention the windshield and it's not visible in the photo, I didn't address that. I agree that in most (perhaps all) North American jurisdictions an approved laminated safety glass windshield would be required. As long as the windshield frame hasn't been hacked up, that's an easy fix (for a price).
 

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"buy a car from someone who joined the forum just to sell the car. " - I joined and have browsed over the years (since 2016), but never really had anything to post, so not just to sell the car. Came here first as this would be the best place for someone who knows a bit more what they'd be getting into.
Sorry, I missed the join date, and just noticed the post count.

Really appreciate the discussion though, and thanks for looking!
Good :)

You can thank JustWill's post for my increased participation in the discussion. 😁
 

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It's my understanding it's OK for the rear/sides (technically the material for the replacement is not plexi, it's polycarbonate).
However, I believe the front windshield needs to be DOT approved Auto Glass. The front windshield on the car needs to be replaced. Right now it is Lexan, and showing it's age, scratched, yellowed. It was put on to drop weight, as the prior owner did track the car.

"buy a car from someone who joined the forum just to sell the car. " - I joined and have browsed over the years (since 2016), but never really had anything to post, so not just to sell the car. Came here first as this would be the best place for someone who knows a bit more what they'd be getting into.

"OP can resell the zilla and hairball for the ask on the whole car. " - Yes, thought long and hard about this one, but all the while the car still sat while I was thinking about it. Eventually the wife had enough ;)
Taking out just the Zilla would then leave me with the rest of the car.
I'm looking for someone to take it all, I just don't have the time right now to either part it out or rebuild.

Really appreciate the discussion though, and thanks for looking!
Where are you located?
 

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I'm looking at 1200 buck to ship it to Wisconsin... but im interested as long as the motor and controller aren't toast. Please contact me. I'm new on this forum so not sure if you can PM me or how that works. Or email me at kronware at gmail.
 
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