SOLD:PROJECT 1984 Porsche 928S EV Race Car - $1000

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raypou

Discussion Starter · Dec 18, 2021

Due to current life circumstances I need to part with this project car.

It’s a 1984 Porsche 928S that was converted to an EV by a prior owner.

It’s been sitting in the driveway for a few years, the battery pack is removed, but remaining parts include:

Zilla 2k controller w/ hairball
Advanced DC FB-4001A Series Wound DC 9" w/ set of replacement brushes
Motor mounted to stripped transmission, 2 remaining gears
Torque tube to rear wheels
Elithion BMS that was never installed
Replacement plexiglass rear hatchback & quarter panel windows
Misc wiring, fuses, gauges, relays
Cover

Needs to be towed.
Currently registered as Planned non-op in Santa Clara, CA.

Has a CA EV title.

Asking $1000

Thanks!

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MattsAwesomeStuff

· #2 · Dec 18, 2021

If it was 3 years ago I would've bought this instead of my current donor project. That wrap and the wing are hideous but both are solveable problems.

The 4-wheel steering intact/functional?

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raypou

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 19, 2021

Paint job seems to be love it or hate it, I didn’t feel the need to change it when I bought the car, it definitely grew on me.

Good question on the rear steering, I believe so, looks like all the control arms are there. I didn’t do any modification there, but can’t say whether the prior owner did.

remy_martian

· #4 · Dec 19, 2021

Is plexiglas street legal for car windows? I didn't think it was.

Agree with Matt that the rear wing is hideous and I'd note that it goes against wanting a low Cd (low drag) that the car body might have offered otherwise.

brian_

· #5 · Dec 19, 2021

raypou said:
Good question on the rear steering, I believe so, looks like all the control arms are there. I didn’t do any modification there, but can’t say whether the prior owner did.

The 928's "Weissach axle" had "passive steering", which means that the toe changes in a planned way in response to suspension forces. As long as it has the stock lower control arms and bushings, this feature is intact.

279138

· #6 · Dec 20, 2021

raypou said:
Due to current life circumstances I need to part with this project car.

It’s a 1984 Porsche 928S that was converted to an EV by a prior owner.

It’s been sitting in the driveway for a few years, the battery pack is removed, but remaining parts include:

Zilla 2k controller w/ hairball
Advanced DC FB-4001A Series Wound DC 9" w/ set of replacement brushes
Motor mounted to stripped transmission, 2 remaining gears
Torque tube to rear wheels
Elithion BMS that was never installed
Replacement plexiglass rear hatchback & quarter panel windows
Misc wiring, fuses, gauges, relays
Cover

Needs to be towed.
Currently registered as Planned non-op in Santa Clara, CA.

Has a CA EV title.

Asking $1000

Thanks!

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Hi. Driving down to Bay Area next week. This looks perfect for my next project. I hate forums- jut call or text me @ 541.390.8918. Will

remy_martian

· #7 · Dec 20, 2021

Yeah. Forums suck so bad for solving problems, contributing to others' projects, and learning stuff.

See you on eBay

279138

· #8 · Dec 20, 2021

All I see I a bunch of spray cats not looking to buy the car, just pick it apart and be internet tough guys. EABOD

brian_

· #9 · Dec 20, 2021

JustWill said:
All I see I a bunch of spray cats not looking to buy the car, just pick it apart and be internet tough guys. EABOD

You joined the forum justs to possibly buy a car from someone who joined the forum just to sell the car. You can imagine that you matter... but you don't. It also doesn't matter if the car sells or not, since it's not really being sold by a forum member, so whatever discussion comes up is okay.

brian_

· #10 · Dec 20, 2021

remy_martian said:
Is plexiglas street legal for car windows? I didn't think it was.

It probably is legal. Soft plastic windows were commonly used in convertible tops, and typically I don't think that any side or rear windows are required at all. The legal restriction for side and rear windows would be against using non-tempered and non-laminated glass, since it breaks into dangerous shards. Acrylic (such as Plexiglas®) - or better, polycarbonate such as Lexan® - is sometimes substituted for glass in street-driven competition vehicles (such as this is supposed to be) and I haven't heard of anyone having a problem with it.

brian_

· #11 · Dec 20, 2021

remy_martian said:
Agree with Matt that the rear wing is hideous and I'd note that it goes against wanting a low Cd (low drag) that the car body might have offered otherwise.

The 928 isn't really low-drag; I've seen it listed as

0.41 for the original
0.38 for the S
0.34 for the S4

0.41 is pretty bad and much higher than, for instance, a 924. Even 0.34 isn't low by today's standards.

The wing is not pretty, but breaking airflow away from the unfortunately rounded tail may reduce drag, although it is probably intended to reduce lift (or just to look "racy").

remy_martian

· #12 · Dec 20, 2021

Downforce is not free. It gets paid for in drag.

remy_martian

· #13 · Dec 20, 2021

JustWill said:
All I see I a bunch of spray cats not looking to buy the car, just pick it apart and be internet tough guys. EABOD

What you see is what you want to see.

We may pick the car apart and learn things (like discuss drag, plexiglas windows, and 4 wheel steering methods for this model to LEARN and exchange ideas that may benefit other builds), but you picking it apart to resell the pieces is pissing on the hundreds of hours put in by the original builder. Nobody here but you is doing that.

People usually join this forum to restore cars. You not having any use other than reselling the pieces is being a parasite vs a craftsman.

The point of the pricing is to have someone restore the work. OP can resell the zilla and hairball for the ask on the whole car.

The car's worth double the ask, imo. Nobody should double their money for taking four bolts off.

raypou

Discussion Starter · #14 · Dec 21, 2021

remy_martian said:
Is plexiglas street legal for car windows? I didn't think it was.

Agree with Matt that the rear wing is hideous and I'd note that it goes against wanting a low Cd (low drag) that the car body might have offered otherwise.

It's my understanding it's OK for the rear/sides (technically the material for the replacement is not plexi, it's polycarbonate).
However, I believe the front windshield needs to be DOT approved Auto Glass. The front windshield on the car needs to be replaced. Right now it is Lexan, and showing it's age, scratched, yellowed. It was put on to drop weight, as the prior owner did track the car.

"buy a car from someone who joined the forum just to sell the car. " - I joined and have browsed over the years (since 2016), but never really had anything to post, so not just to sell the car. Came here first as this would be the best place for someone who knows a bit more what they'd be getting into.

"OP can resell the zilla and hairball for the ask on the whole car. " - Yes, thought long and hard about this one, but all the while the car still sat while I was thinking about it. Eventually the wife had enough

Taking out just the Zilla would then leave me with the rest of the car.
I'm looking for someone to take it all, I just don't have the time right now to either part it out or rebuild.

Really appreciate the discussion though, and thanks for looking!

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brian_

· #15 · Dec 21, 2021

remy_martian said:
Downforce is not free. It gets paid for in drag.

Lift is not free; it gets paid for in drag.

A bit of a spoiler to make a silly rounded tail into a Kamm tail reduces drag, while reducing lift. If you want to squash the rear of the car down on the ground like a Formula 1 car, that adds lots of drag, induced by generating downforce; in a roadable vehicle, neutral (no lift or downforce) is the best one can reasonably hope for from a spoiler.

brian_

· #16 · Dec 21, 2021

raypou said:
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Replacement plexiglass rear hatchback & quarter panel windows
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remy_martian said:
Is plexiglas street legal for car windows? I didn't think it was.

brian_ said:
It probably is legal. Soft plastic windows were commonly used in convertible tops, and typically I don't think that any side or rear windows are required at all. The legal restriction for side and rear windows would be against using non-tempered and non-laminated glass...

raypou said:
It's my understanding it's OK for the rear/sides (technically the material for the replacement is not plexi, it's polycarbonate).
However, I believe the front windshield needs to be DOT approved Auto Glass. The front windshield on the car needs to be replaced. Right now it is Lexan...

Since the original post didn't mention the windshield and it's not visible in the photo, I didn't address that. I agree that in most (perhaps all) North American jurisdictions an approved laminated safety glass windshield would be required. As long as the windshield frame hasn't been hacked up, that's an easy fix (for a price).

brian_

· #17 · Dec 21, 2021 (Edited)

raypou said:
"buy a car from someone who joined the forum just to sell the car. " - I joined and have browsed over the years (since 2016), but never really had anything to post, so not just to sell the car. Came here first as this would be the best place for someone who knows a bit more what they'd be getting into.

Sorry, I missed the join date, and just noticed the post count.

raypou said:
Really appreciate the discussion though, and thanks for looking!

Good

You can thank JustWill's post for my increased participation in the discussion. 😁

GE11

· #18 · Dec 21, 2021

raypou said:
It's my understanding it's OK for the rear/sides (technically the material for the replacement is not plexi, it's polycarbonate).
However, I believe the front windshield needs to be DOT approved Auto Glass. The front windshield on the car needs to be replaced. Right now it is Lexan, and showing it's age, scratched, yellowed. It was put on to drop weight, as the prior owner did track the car.

"buy a car from someone who joined the forum just to sell the car. " - I joined and have browsed over the years (since 2016), but never really had anything to post, so not just to sell the car. Came here first as this would be the best place for someone who knows a bit more what they'd be getting into.

"OP can resell the zilla and hairball for the ask on the whole car. " - Yes, thought long and hard about this one, but all the while the car still sat while I was thinking about it. Eventually the wife had enough
Taking out just the Zilla would then leave me with the rest of the car.
I'm looking for someone to take it all, I just don't have the time right now to either part it out or rebuild.

Really appreciate the discussion though, and thanks for looking!

Where are you located?

GE11

· #19 · Dec 21, 2021

Oh sorry I see California

Kranich

· #20 · Dec 30, 2021

I'm looking at 1200 buck to ship it to Wisconsin... but im interested as long as the motor and controller aren't toast. Please contact me. I'm new on this forum so not sure if you can PM me or how that works. Or email me at kronware at gmail.

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