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The rear already has 4:11 gears, I must test this ratio with our two Netgain 11" motors, they are not HV motors so rpm's are limited. Might have to switch to 3:73 if we top out before the end of the 1/4 mile. Much testing to do, will have a fun 2011 season racing this baby. 
Todd,
I have just viewed your website, very impressive. I also grew up in the "Muscle Care Era" and now have dedicated my future to bring my children into the "EV ERA of Muscle Cars". LOL. It sounds funny, but if someone told me 15 years ago I would be building EV Race cars I would have laughed at them. Shows how the future is changing everyday (or I'm just getting older).
I have just viewed your website, very impressive. I also grew up in the "Muscle Care Era" and now have dedicated my future to bring my children into the "EV ERA of Muscle Cars". LOL. It sounds funny, but if someone told me 15 years ago I would be building EV Race cars I would have laughed at them. Shows how the future is changing everyday (or I'm just getting older).
Thanks for your info. Its funny where we all stand on the EV issue. Some are very liberal and think of saving the planet. Some are electrical engineers and love this new era, and some are like me, bored with ICE and want to try something new. I also hate buying oil from our enemies, and think EV use is better for National Security. I am no liberal trying to save the world, just an independent trying to have fun and weed America off foreign oil.
I edited my post to say clean looking. The electric motor in my street rod gives me a very compact (with lithium cells) powertrain, without traditional cooling, intake, and exhaust, systems to plumb.
I'm far from bored with ICE though. My heart still skips a beat, my pulse quickens, and an involuntary smile splits my face every time I hear a sexy ICE slinging C02 into the atmosphere!
I'm far from bored with ICE though. My heart still skips a beat, my pulse quickens, and an involuntary smile splits my face every time I hear a sexy ICE slinging C02 into the atmosphere!
LOL. I love the thrill of more HP and Torque! If I can receive that from an EV I will be impressed. I have owned over 20 street dragsters in my years. My first was a 1968 Chevelle, my fastest was a 1968 Dart GTS with a 383. One of my wildest was a Chevy Monza custom shortened rear, 327 engine. One of my favorite was my 1970 Duster 340 4 speed Hurst. I starting racing around 1983/84 year. We street raced at night at the end of highways in CT, we drag raced at Englishtown, NJ.
Ready for something new!
Ready for something new!
I edited my post to say clean looking. The electric motor in my street rod gives me a very compact (with lithium cells) powertrain, with traditional cooling, intake, and exhaust, systems to plumb.
I'm far from bored with ICE though. My heart still skips a beat, my pulse quickens, and an involuntary smile splits my face every time I hear a sexy ICE slinging C02 into the atmosphere!
I have put all your photos into your first post. It will tidy things up for you.Okay, will use that option next time.
Thank you! and Happy Thanksgiving to all!
I have put all your photos into your first post. It will tidy things up for you.
Team Lithiumaniacs has hired Bill Scrivener of Scrivener Performance Engineering. He has over 30 years in drag racing experience, he has custom built drag racing chassis for many teams still racing today.
His recommendations for our 1981 Camaro dragster are:
* New fiberglass doors, trunk lid, and one piece nose.
* Custom built motor brackets moving the motors closer to the rear.
* Custom built battery boxes.
* Tube front controll arms (will save 50lbs).
* Two additional rool cage bars.
* New ring and pinion matching the motor and wheels.
etc.....pictures coming on modifications and assembly!
His recommendations for our 1981 Camaro dragster are:
* New fiberglass doors, trunk lid, and one piece nose.
* Custom built motor brackets moving the motors closer to the rear.
* Custom built battery boxes.
* Tube front controll arms (will save 50lbs).
* Two additional rool cage bars.
* New ring and pinion matching the motor and wheels.
etc.....pictures coming on modifications and assembly!
I'm not claiming to be a drag racing or EV expert, but here's a couple things that jumped to mind:
Since batteries are heavy, and can be put almost anywhere, I wouldn't think you'd need to move the motors, just move the pack back a little more. You can also build an oversized battery box, and move batteries forward or back, fill the empty space with foam or something, to adjust weight balance. Bill Dube ( NEDRA Killacycle record setter) also says the height of the pack is important for tuning.
What ring and pinion is he recommending? On what basis? Why not get some data with the existing gear first? That's something that is just as easily changed after the conversion to electric power.
The NEDRA board ( http://www.NEDRA.com ) would be the best place to ask about these things -- they'll give good advice for free.
Since batteries are heavy, and can be put almost anywhere, I wouldn't think you'd need to move the motors, just move the pack back a little more. You can also build an oversized battery box, and move batteries forward or back, fill the empty space with foam or something, to adjust weight balance. Bill Dube ( NEDRA Killacycle record setter) also says the height of the pack is important for tuning.
What ring and pinion is he recommending? On what basis? Why not get some data with the existing gear first? That's something that is just as easily changed after the conversion to electric power.
The NEDRA board ( http://www.NEDRA.com ) would be the best place to ask about these things -- they'll give good advice for free.
Team Lithiumaniacs has hired Bill Scrivener of Scrivener Performance Engineering. He has over 30 years in drag racing experience, he has custom built drag racing chassis for many teams still racing today.
His recommendations for our 1981 Camaro dragster are:
* New fiberglass doors, trunk lid, and one piece nose.
* Custom built motor brackets moving the motors closer to the rear.
* Custom built battery boxes.
* Tube front controll arms (will save 50lbs).
* Two additional rool cage bars.
* New ring and pinion matching the motor and wheels.
etc.....pictures coming on modifications and assembly!
Agreeing with David here. Compared to the weight of a V8 and transmission, your siamese Warp 11s are already removing a significant amount of weight from the front, in effect moving weight back. That's as much as you get from me for free though.
It's important on any vehicle, but crucial on a dragbike like Killacycle, because there are two wheels, spaced relatively close together, and a lot of power. Plus, he's on a wrinkle wall, which expands and contracts on and off power. Weight bias, height, CG, etc, are all important though. Cars are just much more forgiving - especially when you bounce off the wall!
You can ballpark the ratio pretty good with some simple calculations, but will likely have to fine tune (buy more ring and pinion sets) for the last few tenths.
In regards to the placement of the motors and battery boxes, we have figured out the weight balance. The motors will sit 10" rear to where the "stock" front of the ICE sat, this will give better balance and a shorter driveshaft. The battery boxes will be sunk into the frame in the rear and front of the car. Works like magic!
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