[remy_martian]

Why? By the time you're done futzing, Ford will have the full truck chassis offering.

 

[remy_martian]

I would give it 20% chance that Ford can deliver the specs (including price) they promise, and 10% that they will do it in the next 6 months.

"Ford and Rivian have abandoned a plan they had to jointly develop an EV together. In an interview with Automotive News, Ford CEO Jim Farley said the automaker will go it alone as it aims to produce 600,000 vehicles per year by the end of 2023."

Ford and Rivian cancel plan to jointly develop an EV

Ford and Rivian have abandoned a plan they had to jointly develop an EV together. In an interview with Automotive News, Ford CEO Jim Farley said the automaker will go it alone as it aims to produce 600,000 vehicles per year by the end of 2023. When the company invested $500 million in Rivian in...

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They'll deliver...it's Toyota that's gunna get F'd (stock symbol pun intended)

 

[remy_martian]

Order one and you'll see the options. The Lightning is the only real truck so far out of Cybrtrk, Rivian, Hummer, Lightning.

Optional 10,000 pound towing, iirc. I almost plunked down for one, but may piss that money away on an electric truck conversion that I may never finish 😂 Gregski's kicking my motivation in the butt right now, so he'll be to blame for me not having a Lightning.

Silverado and RAM are vaporware - GM made a huge blunder (they always do, it seems), by not leading with a pickup truck offering. They didn't realize how real the EV market is, or tye reduced cost of manufacturing over ICE. Ford now does...and Tesla and Rivian will be relegated to niche when Ford clears their huge backlog. The Lightning fleet model (for tradespeople) is $27 grand if the Senate approves the bill the House just passed.

 

[remy_martian]

Ford is not going to take a risk with fleet managers or with their reputation as No 1 truck manufacturer by falling short on tow ratings. They aren't Tesla.

If GM, Ford, or Dodge state GTW, it's a legally binding rating that the vehicle owner pays for - a hefty premium in the case of the Lightning.

If Elon Musk claims a Model X can tow an airliner, it's bullshit (the car is RATED at 5,000 lb). As is Ford towing a train car with a pickup truck in response to Musk. That is NOT the tow rating.

 

[remy_martian]

They made their money on the IPO and Ford dropped them like a steaming poopie.

If they really are delayed to late next year, stick a fork in 'em...first mover advantage...gone

 

[remy_martian]

If the only difference between a Lightning and an F-150 is the front clip (assume same frame mounting points and steering etc for the body), the tooling change to go to the F-150 SUV is trivial.

 

[remy_martian]

I didn't say Expedition. Expedition is on the Superduty chassis, not the F-150.

EDIT: WAS Superduty. Seems they can turn an SUV on a dime if there was demand for one. Being a gas guzzler, maybe a 80 MPGe Thunder may have that demand...

FORD EXPEDITION THUNDER: THE PERFORMANCE SUV TWIN OF F-150 LIGHTNING TRUCK

Ford Expedition Thunder performance SUV was a mechanical twin to the legendary Ford F-150 Lightning pickup truck that never made production.

www.musclecarsandtrucks.com

 

[remy_martian]

Yeah, you're right. Excursion is what I was thinking.

 

[remy_martian]

I don't know how you define a "real truck", surely F150 Lightning looks like a truck look everyone is accustomed to, but... given its electric drive train, that will be a problem.

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Cybertruck really is THE ONLY EV truck in the list. Others may lack truckiness, or EVness, but CT is the only one that is expected to combine the two worlds.

Just spotted this in town.

Let's see your Cyber"truck" do this rather mundane TRUCK task, fanboy 😂