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Truncated messages (Primer and distillation by an observer)

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Hi Folks,

You may not realize this, but the messages that are showing to you as
truncated are not, in fact, being truncated :) The original message is
intact but not being displayed because of some MIME magic.. MIME is
just a method of formatting information in email and if you have two
MIME messages stacked together, depending on what they are some email
clients will only show the -last- one in the chain.

Which means, if someone has a signature with HTML (or whatever) in it,
the list truncates it out and attaches the familiar "YOU HAVE BEEN
TRUNCATED" message onto the end..

Your email client then displays only the second bit.. namely the
truncation message.

The answer is to look at the 'original' or 'source' of the email. In
Gmail, which many of us use, you can click on the little arrow next to
the 'Reply' fast tab and it will show 'show original'. You will then
be able to view the whole message.

A few of these truncated messages actually are truncated in the body
of the message, but I've not noticed very many. Find out how to 'show
source' or 'show original' with your email client and you should be
ok.

--T
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Yes, I took a close look at the message source, and here's what seems to
be happening:
1) The sender's original message is in a section of the email marked
"text/plain", which is what most mail clients display when they aren't
set up to handle HTML
2) When the sjsu server strips off the offending HTML, however, it
appends a second "text/plain" section to the email, following the first,
original text/plain section
3) When an Email client like Thunderbird reads the Email, it sees the
two "text/plain" sections, and makes a decision to display only the
second one.

Dave, is there no way to have the sjsu server either just append the
TRUNCATED message to the end of the original text/plain section, or to
have it insert the TRUNCATED section *above* the original text/plain
section?

Bill Dennis


Timothy Balcer wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> You may not realize this, but the messages that are showing to you as
> truncated are not, in fact, being truncated :) The original message is
> intact but not being displayed because of some MIME magic.. MIME is
> just a method of formatting information in email and if you have two
> MIME messages stacked together, depending on what they are some email
> clients will only show the -last- one in the chain.
>
> Which means, if someone has a signature with HTML (or whatever) in it,
> the list truncates it out and attaches the familiar "YOU HAVE BEEN
> TRUNCATED" message onto the end..
>
> Your email client then displays only the second bit.. namely the
> truncation message.
>
> The answer is to look at the 'original' or 'source' of the email. In
> Gmail, which many of us use, you can click on the little arrow next to
> the 'Reply' fast tab and it will show 'show original'. You will then
> be able to view the whole message.
>
> A few of these truncated messages actually are truncated in the body
> of the message, but I've not noticed very many. Find out how to 'show
> source' or 'show original' with your email client and you should be
> ok.
>
> --T
>
>
>
>
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