[Voltswagen]

Saw this news piece on Yahoo today - Sept. 13

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100913/ap_on_bi_ge/us_electric_cars

Where did the US Govt get their $30,000.00 price tag for a 100 mile battery pack?

 

[rillip3]

That's probably the amount they'd pay for a pack. You know how government requisitioning works. Take the market price, quintuple it, then call it the lowest bid.

 

[JRoque]

Where did the US Govt get their $30,000.00 price tag for a 100 mile battery pack?

Their Lithium pack is multipurpose: it not only charges but it also discharges.... Remember the $400 hammer hearings?

So A123 and others have the Gov believing the cells are that expensive now so in 4 years they'll be selling them at the prices we currently pay today. Nice. And then we won't be able to buy them anyway because OEMs will gobble them up.

JR

 

[Lexus]

$30,000 for a Battery Pack, bugger that I can buy the New Mitsubishi EV for $30,500

The i-MiEV was launched for fleet customers in Japan in July 2009, and on April, 1, 2010 sales to the public began in the Japanese market at a price of 4 million yen (~USD43,000). After government incentives the sale price drops to 2.8 million yen (~$30,500).http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/#cite_note-NYT042010-6

Tell the truth the price has dropped down to 2.2 million yen

 

[Crash]

Dunno... When I did the math on buying A123 cells, $33K would buy me just enough cells to go a little over 100 miles. That was a 35kWh pack I think.

I definitely think that it should be a HELL of a lot cheaper, though. The article states that the stimulus could make the pack $10K by 2015... Um, that's 4 years down the line. Not to mention that the factory employs 90 people. WTF?!

So a brand new factory.... FACTORY... for a green technology... GREEN TECH!.. during this time of recession where we're supposed to be opening up lots of new businesses in green tech industries to employ more people only employs - making sure I get this right - 90 people?!?!?!

 

[rillip3]

Dunno... When I did the math on buying A123 cells, $33K would buy me just enough cells to go a little over 100 miles. That was a 35kWh pack I think.

I definitely think that it should be a HELL of a lot cheaper, though. The article states that the stimulus could make the pack $10K by 2015... Um, that's 4 years down the line. Not to mention that the factory employs 90 people. WTF?!

So a brand new factory.... FACTORY... for a green technology... GREEN TECH!.. during this time of recession where we're supposed to be opening up lots of new businesses in green tech industries to employ more people only employs - making sure I get this right - 90 people?!?!?!

Yeah, $299,000,000/99 = $3,322,222. So apparently it takes $3 million dollars to make 1 job. No wonder why unemployment is so high...

 

[Voltswagen]

Anyone like me who has built and drives an EV knows that mileage is a function of weight, voltage, ampere hours, rolling resistance, drag co-efficient and speed.
To blindly state that a 100 mile battery pack costs $30,000.00 is pure fiction.
The recent price tag for a Nissan Leaf is right around $32,000.00 US
and they claim a 100 mile range. So the car less the batteries costs $2,000.00 ?
For right about $10,000.00 US you could buy 40 TS 200ah Lithiums and installed in a vehicle weighing less than 2500lbs - you should be able to achieve a 100 mile range at moderate speeds of 40 -50mph.

 

[Automcdonough]

So the car less the batteries costs $2,000.00 ?

Why the surprise, that's like everyone on this board!

 

[Voltswagen]

Automcdonough -
Yes, for many of the members here who have built an EV, the value of the vehicle minus the batteries might be $2,000.00...........but a brand new Nissan minus the battery pack?
If they are only $2,000.00............I'll buy them all.