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Does anyone know what cells he used to build his pack?
http://www.dowkokam.com/cell-specifications.php

I know they are the Ultra High Power Cells, but what capacity and what product number? :confused:
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Why don't you ask John? Come to think of it, he probably has that info on his website.
Does anyone know what cells he used to build his pack?
http://www.dowkokam.com/cell-specifications.php

I know they are the Ultra High Power Cells, but what capacity and what product number? :confused:
"LithiumaniacsEVRacing" John didn't get to where he is by asking forum readers about what the competition is doing.
Good grief you really are a lazy ass! Get off this forum and do some research for yourself. Quit relying on others to spoon feed you information :mad: enough of this crap!

Being a n00b is no excuse :confused:
Do you feel important now attacking me? Take it easy computer gangsta! John has asked many questions on his adventure. He did not list the product number on his "Waylands Words". Have a nice day tough guy! :p

"LithiumaniacsEVRacing" John didn't get to where he is by asking forum readers about what the competition is doing.
Good grief you really are a lazy ass! Get off this forum and do some research for yourself. Quit relying on others to spoon feed you information :mad: enough of this crap!

Being a n00b is no excuse :confused:
...Get off this forum and do some research for yourself...
But then we wouldn't have a dozen new threads a week to read. :rolleyes: :D
LOL. you only learn by asking questions and reading. It's called research! It seems "Life" does not like me. LMFAO! :cool:

But then we wouldn't have a dozen new threads a week to read. :rolleyes: :D
LOL. you only learn by asking questions and reading. It's called research! It seems "Life" does not like me. LMFAO! :cool:
If you were to search my history here, you would find that I asked my share as well. The only problem is you scatter your seeds too wide. One or two focused threads would have served the purpose, and kept all the ideas brewing in one spot. This way there are bits and pieces of information in each of your threads, but no clear "running tally". Also, a lot of this stuff has been discussed to death here, and is just a search button away. That's why you're not getting intense debate/discussion - it's all been discussed countless times. Almost all of the battery information that has been shared to answer your questions has been covered in much greater detail... Wayland even chimed in once about his cells. He didn't share a lot of specifics, but did provide some very important info.
Todd,

Knowing this helps, there are too many threads for me to see this without hours of digging. I will keep digging. :eek:

If you were to search my history here, you would find that I asked my share as well. The only problem is you scatter your seeds too wide. One or two focused threads would have served the purpose, and kept all the ideas brewing in one spot. This way there are bits and pieces of information in each of your threads, but no clear "running tally". Also, a lot of this stuff has been discussed to death here, and is just a search button away. That's why you're not getting intense debate/discussion - it's all been discussed countless times. Almost all of the battery information that has been shared to answer your questions has been covered in much greater detail... Wayland even chimed in once about his cells. He didn't share a lot of specifics, but did provide some very important info.
Todd,

Knowing this helps, there are too many threads for me to see this without hours of digging. I will keep digging. :eek:
The other thing is you need to start an actual build thread for the Camaro - one thread!!! :p Then, the info that is directly relevant to that project, and links to ouside sources, will be in one spot. One suggestion, in case your thread ends up as big as Cro's 100K-view monster, is to start a table of contents so you can actually find the info again. I have to go back through mine some day and try to do this because there is a lot of stuff in there that might help other EVers. This forum is based on helping EACH OTHER - be mindful that you are/remain as committed to being a resource as using them. Not what you think is being a good resource, but what people actually need/want.

One final thought: You have this conflicting presence here of being desperate for help (because you don't understand) and being arrogantly wise beyond measure. I'm not saying that's how you are purposely presenting yourself - it's how you come across.

Example: You asked a ton of questions about building an EV drag car, while simultaneously boasting about your experience in ICE drag racing. At the time, you were planning to build a 300ZX. Then, without a word you show up with an 81 Camaro drag car. It may serve the purpose but wasn't the most logical choice for an EV drag car (big and aerodynamically handicapped). There was advice in the threads where your 300ZX was discussed that provided excellent guidelines for selecting a good foundation for an EV drag car, but you kind of threw all that out the window and made your own choice.

I'm not trying to start a flame war, just trying to clue you in to why you're getting mixed emotions and limited feedback in return. If a person asked for your advice on how to best pack and move their household or office, and did almost the exact opposite of what you suggested, how would you feel the next time they started picking your brain - for free info? :cool:
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Ron, I think that Todd hit the nail on the head. One of your first posts on this forum was

"The Lithiumaniacs EV Drag Racing Team are building a street legal 300ZX that will smoke "White Zombies" record. It also has dual motors and lithium batteries. No details yet. We will run on the East Coast Tracks in 2011. :D

GLTA!"

and now (3 months later) you are starting newbie style threads. If you want to go fast, talk to the fast guys - not their fans.

Later,
Keith
I have to chime in as well. I ask a lot of questions...but I also provide answers where I can. I also greet the occasional new member etc. You came on here with a "swingin dick" (to borrow another quote) about how you were gonna kick everyone's ass. With this attitude, I can't believe you are getting all the help you are getting. Probably the only reason is that people see you have more money than brains... and can buy stuff they only dream of. Bottom line is that u obviously don't have a clue... and that's not a crime.... just put ur tiny dick back in ur pants, close big yap and earn some respect instead of proclaiming it through $.
BTW, "research" is not all about picking ppls brains...
I have to chime in as well... Probably the only reason is that people see you have more money than brains... and can buy stuff they only dream of...
Nope, the point is either way he can't be the center of attention. He can't come in and buy his way to glory, and we can't allow him to change the nature of this board. It's an open, giving, caring, community that can't afford to let one person turn it into a paranoid, closed-off, foul-mouthed, secretive, little clique.

Ron has asked the same questions a lot of us have, and has goals similar to more than a few. There are other people reading these threads looking for the same answers. Those of us who seem to be helping him are actually continuing to build this community in the same spirit it has been thriving under. Any points I address to him, I am actually trying to share what little knowledge I have to help the next person who has the same question, or idea. That's why I wish he would have posted pictures of and info on that Camaro before he bought it and asked if the people he had been pressing for advice thought it was the right choice. That way the next person reading it would have learned why most of us would have said no, and what we woud have recommended.

It's always about the greater good of the community, never about one swinging dick...
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LOL. you only learn by asking questions and reading. It's called research! It seems "Life" does not like me. LMFAO! :cool:
Oh I do like you :) I just want you to get off your lazy butt, and quit your BS'ing about beating out records of long-time respected EV competitors when you're talking about old camaros or 300z's to do it.

Anyone who is any good will not give you their secrets. It's a badge you earn, not by sitting at your peecee in your bedroom in your mom's house. ;)

Now eat your veggies and go to bed.
Maybe if he actually knew what to LOOK for in a battery he wouldn't even have to ask the question to begin with! Maybe you aren't lazy, just ADHD. Sure there are tons of threads on here, you know why? Because noobs like you, come on here, asking the same questions you do. You just don't want to read through them all, you want to be spoonfed the answers.


And one more thing..... I think liuthiumainiacwhateverthefuckitis needs to stop posting a new thread every time he has a question or comment. Just one thread, for the build. All of your postings are relevant to ONE single thing.... your drag car.
...And one more thing... needs to stop posting a new thread every time he has a question or comment... Just one thread, for the build. All of your postings are relevant to ONE single thing.... your drag car.
Maybe the moderators/administrators can morph them all into a build thread, with the title of his choosing?
Although I'm still new to all of this as well, I had all the same questions as LithiumaniacsEVRacing in the beginning. I found my answers and learned a whole lot in the process, and I stress the PROCESSS not just the answer.

I could have asked the same dozen stupid questions a week, got the answer from the great people on this forum and known the answer to 12 questions. Instead I read, I googled, I searched this forum and read some more, and chatted with people who know more than I do, and that answered those 12 questions along with 100 more that I wouldn't have thought of asking.

If there's something I can't find, or simply personal experience I'm looking for I've asked Crodriver/Tesseract/Qer/DavidDymaxion/dimitri/GerhardRP and other questions directly if and only if I think they are the best or only person that can answer the question. I try to be clear, concise, and not waste their time. So far all of these people have been friendly and helpful and are a huge asset to this forum and EV knowledge in general.

Good luck with your Camaro, you've said you have the pockets to best White Zombie and Crodrivers BMW, but it looks like you jumped out of the airplane then asked where the parachutes are? I could not imagine buying a Zilla 2k and not having a clue if I bought a -LV/-HV/-EHV, that is a critical piece of information!!!! You have made it apparent you are succesful in business, you need to take a step back and look at your EV drag car in that same light. Get help where you need it, and use your own strengths where you have them. And by "Get help" I mean PAY someone to design a starting point for the car until your experience catches up with your goals, don't depend on this forum to design the car for you.
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there are too many threads for me to see this without hours of digging
This one pretty much sums it up. You show blatant disrespect to everyone who shares the info on the forum by being too lazy to look for it. Everything there is to know about lithium batteries has been discussed over and over again, its all right here waiting to be read. But, instead of reading what's already been posted, you start a new thread every 5 minutes with questions all over the map. I mean, you changed your battery choices 5 times in one day :eek:

You can't expect people to take you seriously with such forum etiquette. You'd get much better response if you learn how to use the forum appropriately.

No offense, just trying to help you.
Also, a lot of this stuff has been discussed to death here, and is just a search button away.
Knowing this helps, there are too many threads for me to see this without hours of digging. I will keep digging. :eek:
10 IF NoOfThreads > TooMany THEN LET NoOfThreads = NoOfThreads + 1
20 GOTO 10

Spot the problem...?
10 IF NoOfThreads > TooMany THEN LET NoOfThreads = NoOfThreads + 1
20 GOTO 10

Spot the problem...?
When I learned programing we were forbidden from using GOTO's :D
But I think it does get the point across in Qer's unique way!
Nope, the point is either way he can't be the center of attention. He can't come in and buy his way to glory, and we can't allow him to change the nature of this board. It's an open, giving, caring, community that can't afford to let one person turn it into a paranoid, closed-off, foul-mouthed, secretive, little clique.

Ron has asked the same questions a lot of us have, and has goals similar to more than a few. There are other people reading these threads looking for the same answers. Those of us who seem to be helping him are actually continuing to build this community in the same spirit it has been thriving under. Any points I address to him, I am actually trying to share what little knowledge I have to help the next person who has the same question, or idea. That's why I wish he would have posted pictures of and info on that Camaro before he bought it and asked if the people he had been pressing for advice thought it was the right choice. That way the next person reading it would have learned why most of us would have said no, and what we woud have recommended.

It's always about the greater good of the community, never about one swinging dick...
Todd, I think guys like you truly are the backbone of this website.. It's a great place and ppl like you continue to make it better, and keep it good. You always have great points. I wont argue with you...thats for sure. I will point out one thing though.. I honestly don't believe Ron's goals are anything like "more than a few of us". I realize what some of your goals are... and some others. . but this guy doesn't just want to build a car that goes fast. Look at what is going on. He has a bunch of them... with multiple cars and goals much different than the DIYer on here. His aspirations lie outside what I believe is the reason people are here. I also think he HAS been afforded luxuries of information that others would be kindly directed to find in another link or suggested to search for.... and I do think some of that reason is the power of what he can buy.... just my 2 cents... I'm done. Its a free country er ah..continent...lol but I aint helpin... :D:D:cool:
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