The Elcon charger sourced from overseas has no Australian Electrical Approval number & cannot be legally be plugged into the supply network in Australia.
The Elcon is CE certified and should be ok in Australia as the Australian Standards board recognises European Safety certificates. Is this incorrect?
Last time I checked the Zivan chargers did not have any Australian electrical safety approval.CE certification is not the same as Australian Electrical Approval number. A few individuals may have imported the chargers direct from the Chinese manufacturers & may use them but they potentially run a big risk.
It is quite legal for you to import it into Australia, it is just illegal to plug it in.
Likewise, if you ever sell the car with the unapproved charger on board, you risk a maximum fine of about $80,000 (for an individual) for selling an unapproved electrical appliance. You would also be liable for any injury or damage the buyer suffered or caused as a result.
I bought a Zivan because of the other factors I mentioned & the Elcon was not worth the potential liability risk.
There is a big thread about this issue with these chargers on the AEVA forum. Look in the Parts & Suppliers section.
So... Zivan and Elcon both have CE markings meaning they meet standards within the european union (conformité européenne) of saftey. However... Only the elcon has the CTick of Australia / NZ compliance? I have checked both sets of manuals and can only find references to CE markings. Neither manual has a certificate of conformity or much information in (why oh why do manufacturers skimp on documentation!?) Any ANZPAC electrical engineers / Zivan/ Elcon / Manzita reps out there who can let us know the actual regulations?Last time I checked the Zivan chargers did not have any Australian electrical safety approval.
The Elcon chargers do however have Australian C-tick compliance.
So tell me what is the C-tick approval number?Hey,
Pretty sure that Elcon have C-tick and so are kosher in Australia/NZ. No Idea about Zivan.
I can land an Elcon 3KW here for around 1000 bucks, so thats my choice. I have a 4KW already, and i'm buying a 1.5kW so that I can charge off a regular 10A plug if I have to. If anyone wants one, let me know, I'll split the shipping with you.
Regards,
Brett
Hi Brett,I have a 4KW already, and i'm buying a 1.5kW so that I can charge off a regular 10A plug if I have to.
Yes 10A is the rating of a normal 240V outlet.Hi Brett,
Question, why do you need to buy a 1.5 kw model to charge from a "regular" receptacle? I have the 6kw model and the input voltage is from ...like, 85 to 250 or something like that. One of the reasons I bought it was so that I could charge from 120 volt 15 amp or 240 volt 30 amp circuit. I'm not sure about power characteristics in Australia .... if 10 amps is the limit on "regular" receptacles???
That, Sir, is a damned fine question.So tell me what is the C-tick approval number?
The C-tick logo alone means nothing. It is just a logo. There must also be the suppliers C-tick number directly next to the C-tick logo for the C-tick to have any validity. This number is the authorized C-tick approval number which can only be used by the company granted the approval to use this number.That, Sir, is a damned fine question.
And you're quite right, I have assumed what I have been told to be true, I haven't checked that the number is real.
But it's late, and I am turning in, will report back tomorrow.
regards,
Brett
Indeed not, as both my business premises and home are powered by large off grid installations, and not the Mains. but you were not to know this.The C-tick logo alone means nothing. It is just a logo. There must also be the suppliers C-tick number directly next to the C-tick logo for the C-tick to have any validity. This number is the authorized C-tick approval number which can only be used by the company granted the approval to use this number.
If you buy a charger (as an individual) directly from a manufacturer in China unless there is an approval number next to the C-tick you are using the appliance illegally.
