[BMI/LiFeTech]

CE certification is not the same as Australian Electrical Approval number. A few individuals may have imported the chargers direct from the Chinese manufacturers & may use them but they potentially run a big risk.
It is quite legal for you to import it into Australia, it is just illegal to plug it in.
Likewise, if you ever sell the car with the unapproved charger on board, you risk a maximum fine of about $80,000 (for an individual) for selling an unapproved electrical appliance. You would also be liable for any injury or damage the buyer suffered or caused as a result.
I bought a Zivan because of the other factors I mentioned & the Elcon was not worth the potential liability risk.
There is a big thread about this issue with these chargers on the AEVA forum. Look in the Parts & Suppliers section.

Last time I checked the Zivan chargers did not have any Australian electrical safety approval.
The Elcon chargers do however have Australian C-tick compliance.

 

[BMI/LiFeTech]

Hey,

Pretty sure that Elcon have C-tick and so are kosher in Australia/NZ. No Idea about Zivan.

I can land an Elcon 3KW here for around 1000 bucks, so thats my choice. I have a 4KW already, and i'm buying a 1.5kW so that I can charge off a regular 10A plug if I have to. If anyone wants one, let me know, I'll split the shipping with you.

Regards,

Brett

So tell me what is the C-tick approval number?

 

[BMI/LiFeTech]

Hi Brett,
Question, why do you need to buy a 1.5 kw model to charge from a "regular" receptacle? I have the 6kw model and the input voltage is from ...like, 85 to 250 or something like that. One of the reasons I bought it was so that I could charge from 120 volt 15 amp or 240 volt 30 amp circuit. I'm not sure about power characteristics in Australia .... if 10 amps is the limit on "regular" receptacles???

Yes 10A is the rating of a normal 240V outlet.

 

[BMI/LiFeTech]

That, Sir, is a damned fine question.

And you're quite right, I have assumed what I have been told to be true, I haven't checked that the number is real.

But it's late, and I am turning in, will report back tomorrow.

regards,

Brett

The C-tick logo alone means nothing. It is just a logo. There must also be the suppliers C-tick number directly next to the C-tick logo for the C-tick to have any validity. This number is the authorized C-tick approval number which can only be used by the company granted the approval to use this number.

If you buy a charger (as an individual) directly from a manufacturer in China unless there is an approval number next to the C-tick you are using the appliance illegally.

 

[BMI/LiFeTech]

Indeed not, as both my business premises and home are powered by large off grid installations, and not the Mains. but you were not to know this.

There is a rather pernicious tendency in Australia for the way that regulation is applied to cross the line from Normative to Positivist regulation.

Normative regulations serve the laudable function of protecting the public from goods of poor quality or unsafe design. Positivist regulation is the type actively sought by the business itself, primarily for the purpose of presenting a barrier to market entry by new competitors, by virtue of the deterrent that expensive, one-of certification/compliance assessments provide.

Fortunately, I am in the position of not having sold any of these units yet, and you have done me the favour of showing me that there is yet a little more compliance that needs addressing. That said, I find it a little disingenuous to fail to mention that you are in the business of re-badging Elcon chargers yourself.

Respectfully,

Brett

Elcon are one of five charger manufacturers we use for our projects. We carry out electronic and electrical installations and perform modifications to power supplies, chargers, battery management systems etc. to suit customers requirements. To do this we are licensed electrical contractors and hold electrical contractors and electrical supervisors licenses. In addition our company holds an authorized C-tick suppliers number.

Our license/approval authority numbers can be found on our website here-
http://lithbattoz.com.au/?page=contact-us

Chargers supplied by us are covered by our C-tick approval number. If you buy a charger (as an individual) and do not hold a company C-tick approval number then you are not covered by the C-tick logo. As I stated previously the C-tick logo alone is meaningless unless the approval number is also listed. This is the rules set down by the government.